Here is the link to the complete article on the candidate's policies on spaceflight: http://www.space.com/news/071231-candidate-positions.html Fuck Obama! Fuck him right in his big, black ass! All we heard from the Civil Rights leaders of the 1960's and 70's was bitch, bitch, bitch that we need to stop spending money on space and spend it on the poor. Fuck the poor! We stopped going to the Moon 35 years ago, no longer have the capability to go back, and we've got more poor people than ever. Many of them have made a career out of being poor. Piss on 'em! Let's go back to the Moon, and on to Mars.
I wouldn't fuck Obama with a stolen dick. Seriously, he's a dangerous fuckin loon who'll destroy everything if he has anything his way.
I hope we don't elect a black dude from Chicago, he so does not represent the majority of the people in the US.
Joe Biden is probably the Democrat I'd be most likely to vote for, but that ain't saying much. There are three or four Republicans I'd vote for sooner than him though.
Yeah, Obama lost any possibility of getting my vote when I heard this last month... Seriously. And I DEEPLY respect public education (well, the idea of it) but there are MUCH fucking better ways to pay for it than ass raping NASA's budget any more.
I've seen what FedGov's idea of education improvement is. It's telling of one's logic when one says "here I am doing this shit that's not working so I'll fix it by starting doing the same shit even earlier"
I don't think the space program and good public education have to be incompatible. Just look at the MAJOR boost public science education got after Sputnik and during the lead up to Apollo...
One of my favorite West Wing bits... Sam Seaborn: There are lots of hungry people in the world, Mall, and none of them are hungry because we went to the moon. None of them are colder and certainly none of them are dumber because we went to the moon. Mallory O'Brian: And we went to the moon. Do we really have to go to Mars? Sam Seaborn: Yes. Mallory O'Brian: Why? Sam Seaborn: Because it's next. Because we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill and we saw fire; and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the west, and we took to the sky. The history of man is on a timeline of exploration and this is what's next.
Not at all. The one thing I've seen that IS incomputable with good public education is Federal involvement. Wherever schools are good, the are good in spite of the Feds, wherever they are bad, the Feds can't figure out how to fix them.
I'm sick of subjecting the progress of humanity to the Democratic Party's desire to create new clients for the welfare state. Fuck, poverty was supposed to be cured about 40 years and $10 trillion dollars ago when we started pouring shitloads of money into ending it. These assholes want to spend more? To create MORE poor people? And forgo the future to do it? Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all.
Which is why I'm voting for him! See it's all a neo-con plot. We couldn't do it with hurricanes so we'll just engineer a silent coup. No matter who wins 2008 we win.
The human body is mostly made of water. Electrolyze the water into Hydrogen and Oxygen, and BINGO! Rocket fuel. Fat people? More rocket fuel. You could probably pull a fat lady off of Mewa in the subway and go halfway across the solar system.
Why is any federal money being spent on education when it's a state/local matter? Nevermind the fact that after all that federal interference/money/regulation schools continue to get worse and worse, what gives Washington any right to have any say on a solely state issue?
Glad I'm not voting for this guy. Thought about it once, or twice, then he says something idiotic like that. Dumbass. :nuts: -Tibbetts
That's because the Dems had the balls to go after Eisenhower and scream about him letting national security go to hell in a handbasket. We (as a nation) should have been screaming about that when the Chinese put a man in orbit (and again when they shot down that satellite) and demanding more money for NASA. The sad thing is that the folks running who'd do the most good while in office aren't front runners. In order to save NASA (and space in general), it's going to take lot of work. We're going to have to get really creative. IMHO, we should take a page from the civil rights/AIDS activist playbook and start protesting what's being done with the space program, threaten boycotts of companies which really have a vested interest in the space program and, in general let the world know that we're mad as hell and not going to take it anymore!
A year or 2 ago, I was hopeful about an Obama candidacy, but his Senate record has been less than stellar, and he's pretty much been touting the same, old shit that got this country in such a mess. He was already out of my consideration, but this put the icing on the cake.
I wonder if people who are so upset about this plan would be bothered if the proposed NASA budget cut were going to tax refunds rather than schools.
I'd be mad because I don't want any federal dollars going to education. It's a state issue and needs to be funded by the states and locally (if tax payer funded at all). Give the choice between on what to spend my money, between education and NASA I'd go with NASA every time. But I'd leave the NASA budget alone and get rid of a few dozen departments, bureaus, and agencies first.
I'd rather other programs get cut first. I can think of a dozen I'd rather see cut before we carve into NASA
