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  1. enlisted person

    enlisted person Black Swan

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    The Brits cry foul because the company changed its name from British petroleum in 2001 to BP and people still are calling it by its real name.
    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that maybe, and this is just maybe, the plummeting stock price of BP has to do with the fact that they are polluting the shit out of the gulf and not what people refer to the company as. BP is British Petroleum and trying to play name games is not helping. I like BP and have a BP card, but they need to own up to this accident and move on.
  2. Bickendan

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    I've seen BP call themselves 'Beyond Petroleum' in some of their print ads. How prophetic :bergman:
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    Ok, show of hands, who thought this was going to be another EP issue?
  4. RickDeckard

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    BP are still headquartered in London, but they have three times as much of a presence in the United States.
  5. Ebeneezer Goode

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    It's been known as 'BP' for around a century, despite a few name changes, and the sudden use of the full title does indicate they're playing on the 'British' bit in a piece of political weaselness.

    AFAIK the platforms owners are American, the Haliburton subsidiary who fucked up the concrete are American and BP merged AMOCO (American Oil Company) around a decade back, so it's most definitely a transatlantic effort.

    BP firmly deserve censure (after all they should've ensured the plug was safe, and they're the only deep water drillers I know of who rely on single pipes which appears to have made things worse), but Obama's "gorram forn-ers" act is a little cunty, especially given just how many BP shares are owned by US investors, including private pension funds.
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  6. Starchaser

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    I've always heard them called BP. :shrug:
  7. enlisted person

    enlisted person Black Swan

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    Guess what, when a company fucks up, their stock goes in the shitter. The stock market is a gamble.
  8. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and point out to thy fuckwit that more non Brits (with a majority being American) work for BP than Brits so to suggest it is a British dominated company is laughable.

    Some idiots can't spot a multi-national when they see it.
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    It might not be British dominated but its british run, just like Japan got the bad press for cars that suddenly accelerate even though they were made in the USA. Just like lots Of brits bitch about Mcdonalds even though its brits working in the stores over there.
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    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    With that logic you should argue that its all an Iranian plot to destroy the US coastline.

    Damn that Shah.....
  11. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    Clearly....

    I also love how the special Brit entitlement mentality some of them have sees expecting BP to use it's resources to clean up it's catastrophe before paying the stockholders is an "attack". :jayzus:
  12. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    Well, I think the "attack" element comes from Obama referring to BP as British Petroleum, a name which it got rid of decades ago because of the fact that such a name wasn't appropriate for a multinational. Obama's use of it has been seen as bringing a national identity to something that is really a matter between the US and a private multi-national. It was a childish way of doing things and, frankly, it was not a matter that was in any way the responsibility of the British Government.

    Unless, you think otherwise.......
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    Reading the article, it seems they feel that suggesting BP needs to pay for the damages before appeasing stockholders is keeping money out of British pockets and that is an attack on Great Britain...which I feel is ludicrous.

    Obama bungling diplomacy in any way at this point fails to surprise me. However, I doubt it is really anything more than it was British Petroleum for a long time and many people here don't even know BP was an official name change and not just a "short-for".
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  14. Muad Dib

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    I put BP gas in my Toyota just to piss people off.
  15. enlisted person

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    They changed the name in 2001, not decades ago. Kentucky Fried Chicken changed its name to KFC, and did the same stupid shit. If you are going to change the name of a company, don't make it the initials of the old company. Plus, I bet money that BP still has the rights the name British Petroleum and would defend that in a lawsuit if anyone else tried to use it.
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    Strangely enough, I'm starting to see some franchises around here return to the old Kentucky Fried Chicken logo.

    A Google search says that they decided to go back to the original name in 2006, but it seems that they're only starting to change the signage now. :chris:
  17. enlisted person

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    KFCs problem is not with the name but the management. They are too high on some things and that is what is getting them. Almost every other fast food place offers value meals that include a drink and KFC doesn't. They hammer you for that separately. Fast food companies have almost no cost in soft drinks. The cup usually costs them more than the soda that goes in it. Thats a no-brainer at most places to have a meal deal that throws the drink in at almost no cost compared to buying all the items separately.
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    Must be where you live, then.

    All the ones I've been to around here do have a drink as part of the meal deal. :shrug;
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  19. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    Same here.
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    Our KFC doesn't offer a drink with their meals either. (SW Ohio)
    However, our local Lee's does, and their chicken is far juicer and delicious than the KFCs we have.
  21. enlisted person

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    I used to like hardees chicken but hardees have all but dried up around here. It was total mismanagement. The hardees around here used to do an absolute killer business for breakfast. My wife used to work at one and made the buscuits and they would sell over 200 lbs of buscuits most mornings and with 6 people there could clear over 5k$ in a morning. How do you destroy a business like that ? Its an independent franchise and one day about 6 stores became popeyes fried chicken and didn't do breakfast anymore.
  22. Nightbird

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    BP should stand for "Biggest Polluter."
    I'm not buying their gas any more. Fuck those assholes !
  23. El Chup

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    Well, whatever, the upset over here is the "Britishcising" of it, not stockholder attacks.
  24. Clyde

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    Hey! This is our oil spill, don't try and get in on our outrage opportunity. :mad:
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    Just the thought of eating at KFC kinda makes me want to puke...

    I've definitely lost my interest in fast food recently.
  26. Clyde

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    Fast food wasn't good to begin with, and it's been getting worse for decades. Kentucky Fried Chicken used to have tasty chicken and the best tater mash and gravy you could get in a styrofoam cup. Eating at KFC now is hit and miss at best, sometimes it's darn near inedible yet sometimes it's as good as it ever was.

    :clyde:


    Sorta off-topic: A goldmine awaits anyone who can make fast food healthy, cheap, and most importantly, tasty.
  27. Captain J

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    Well, congrats dumbass. You're certainly punishing all the American small business owners of the BP gas stations. BP doesn't own a single station in the US. Yet another shining example of why liberalism is a misguided :turd: that only hurts hard working Americans. Good work.
  28. Ebeneezer Goode

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    The Chairman is Swedish, the CEO is British and CFO is American...

    And yes, it's based in London. But then much of Microsoft and Google are based in places like Ireland, the reason has nothing to do with nationality but with the favourable trading conditions.
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    The strings are pulled and the money flow goes to London. This is why its Briticized and and rightfully so.
  30. Ebeneezer Goode

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    Here's the thing: BP is a private company, so maybe Obama could fuck off out of it's internal business?

    They have more than enough money to cover doing their level best to fix this over the next few years, and it's the governments job to enforce that do clean up after themselves and make any reparations that are needed, as well as ensuring BP do not repeat the debacle.

    Obama is also desperate to deflect the reason the Deepwater Horizon was where it was, was due to him allowing deep water drilling much to the consternation of his supporters who felt (correctly it appears) it could be an ecological disaster.

    I don't think anyone in the UK disagrees that BP is in the wrong and that it needs it feet roasting over this, we're just not especially pleased that Obama thinks he can play on the 'Britishness' of the company in a sad effort to save his own skin.