Will: Romney and Gingrich, from bad to worse

I'm sure half of the posters just fell over in shock.

If I understand correctly, Newt's "affair" happened when he was seperated from his wife and in the process of a divorce.

Yet all I hear from the likes of that fat fuck Moore are a simplistic "he cheated on his wife" with no concern to set the record straight with the facts.

If wer're stuck with Newt then I guess we're stuck with Newt. I suppose he's probably the best of the current lot. I can't see where he could make things much worse than they are now especially on the global front.
I'm not really one of those "anybody but Obama" types and feel to take that tack is ignorance personified. I felt that way when GW was the target and look how the that turned out so I must beon to something.

All I want is a candidate that has the cajonies to act like the President of the United States an not just a cult of personality with the inability to lead in a way that ensures our interests and can embrace America on some plane that doesn't involve class warfare and redistribution of funds to those who game the system at every turn, and do it for the votes as is painfully clear in our current administration.
Upon further reflection and considering Newt's stance and actions in the welfare reform arena he may well be the guy to get the job done.
We'll see.

Until we get some kind of meaningful campaign finance reform and lobbying reform through that will never happen.

Perhaps, but I was thinking more alongs of the welfare cheats than lobbyists and campaign finance.

I don't expect either of those to change short of a meltdown of the American system of electing political leaders and blowing up of the tracks the campaign train runs on. Those millions spent go into the system for the most part providing jobs and an economical stimulous to millions of people.

Why? Welfare makes up such a small percentage of our money compared to that which is given away to corporations that your priorities are out of wack.

Yes we need more welfare reform. But we need to take the government back from the corporations and uber rich first.

What my rep was meant to say before I accidentally hit ENTER: Welcome to the club. We've got jackets.


It's been apparent for quite some time that we really have only one political party with two somewhat different branches.

While each branch has its own agenda, their overriding concern above all else is to remain in power.

I wouldn't count ANYONE out yet. Very few of us saw RINO McCain getting the nomination until almost the last minute.

^ That went well.

Of the Republicans running, Newt would probably make the best President.

That said, it looks fairly certain that I'll be voting Libertarian next year.

I'm done voting for who will make the "best" president. I'm interested in the guy with the most consistent views, best well formed ideas, and who will stand up to his party as well. Currently, there is only one man with decades worth of evidence that tells me he will do that. DR. RON PAUL. And consistency and honesty is something the American voter has been deprived of since...uh...well, Teddy Roosevelt?

"Eccentric agrees!"



He returns.......

IIRC, the issue with Newt's affair was that he had the divorce papers served on his wife while she was in the hospital dying of cancer. Something about "class" and "compassion" and - a favorite GOP talking point - "character" spring to mind here.

There's also the fact that this particular member of the "party of family values" is currently married to Spouse #3.

Would any of this make him a bad President? Not in and of itself. It's just kind of funny hearing these folks spout "family values."

In more current events, here's what Romney and his staff have been up to:

Romney staff spent nearly $100,000 to hide records...

Fun times...

This has been debunked multiple times on WF and in fact there was an entire thread on it.

First off, she wasn't dying of cancer. She was having an non-malignant tumor removed.

Secondly he didn't serve her with divorce papers, they were already well in the process and had already negotiated it out. All he did was bring the finalized document in for her to sign, something she asked him to do.


There are plenty of reasons not to like Newt, but this incident is not one of them.

Ah, okay, then. Another media misdirection. As you say, there's enough else about him not to like, but you have to wonder what rumors will emerge now.

Newt did your momma. From behind!

Only if he was a time traveler.

But it's nice you've brought the topic back around to me again.

I get it; I really do. "Gingrich", "garamet," they both begin with "g." You get confused.

Good thing the TARDIS is bigger on the inside, then.








Newt's fat.

Well then don't be afraid of him. He won't hurt you.

Nice edit - Had to make sure g knew you weren't talking about her mama!

Amused by =/= afraid of.

Newt as GOP nominee? Eesh. I hope not. I imagine his surge in poll numbers is mostly due to voters saying "bribable is predictable. That's better than Romney, since we have no idea what he believes."

It's as if the Republicans have taken up the challenge to actually put forth a nominee worse than McCain.

Newt is the equivalent of of shotgunning some beers and doing a swan dive into the pool from the roof.

Better than Obama, though, right? Or will you (the collective you) sit out the presidential race?

Nah. The protocol is to write in Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, or - hell, what's Fred Thompson up to these days?

Funny how both of you are essentially telling me (the collective me) to get back on the reservation.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Red/Blue "divide".

Not I. I'm telling you to vote your conscience. I've written in candidates before. Once in New York I had to actually show the ladies from the League of Women voters how it's done.

I'm not telling you to get back on the reservation at all.

Work your butt off to get your preferred candidate on the ballot now, by all means. Change the system as well so that two parties don't dominate as thoroughly.

But, the probability exists that the race will be either Romney or Gingrich against Obama. And, further, if those are the choices of the major parties with the system working the way it does now, the president will be one of those men.

Knowing that, I repeat my question. Are you going to sit out the presidential race?

Paris Hilton got my vote last go round, Lady Gaga is looking to be my dark horse this time.

You can choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

And this is why you're stuck with a two-party system. It's a little more creative, but no more effective, than Uncle Albert's "I ain't votin' for nobody never!"

No, not really. I fully vote in the various local and congressional elections, and for quite a few Democrats. I just leave one blank.