Feds: ‘Poor’ Consume Like The Rich

I think he's saying that you're racist.

You big racist.

No one needs to concede that both your perceptions and your ability to express yourself are flawed. Both are self-evident.

Yanno, there are still a few kingdoms left, if you really want to be ruled. Maybe you should emigrate.

Really, Nick? REALLY!? You're actually going to say that you've seen a trailer park in the United States of America in the past quarter century that was "not much better than those images"?

You got any photos to back that up?

These guys?

Where yat? Howz ya mama n them? Nawlin's talk bra.

Garamet as usual when she's lost tries to derail the argument. Predictable.

Good Lord. You're from Iowa aren't you.

he is.
He only works in space.

No he's from outer space. He only works in Iowa.

Nawlin's man Nawlin's. Crescent City the Big Easy?

If you ever had an argument, you lost track of it long before you devolved to third person.

Well, some did, some didn't. There was that notion that only property-owners should be allowed to vote...

Actually...yes. The last company I worked for, VG's Food and Pharmacy, was a nice family owned company. It got bought out by Spartan Stores, a regional distributor and owner of several grocery chains. Now, right before we were bought out, we bought several Farmer Jack locations, which was a midwestern grocery division of the Asia and Pacific Tea Company (A&P) that was liquidated.

Prior to liquidation, in the early 2000's, the Farmer Jack division was headed up by Dennis Eidson. At that time, many of the Farmer Jack stores were in need of an upgrade, but instead of upgrading, Dennis Eidson pushed an expansion into markets that already had significant competition. In order to compete with these stores, Farmer Jack had to reduce their prices and reduce staffing. However, since it couldn't compete on cost with companies like Wal-Mart and Meijer, this proved to be incredibly detrimental to the company, as it lost customers to the other stores which had lower or equal prices and higher quality stores. Within a couple years, it was forced to close a bunch of stores, lay off employees, and further reduce staffing, and also had an accounting scandal. Meanwhile, its existing stores were still in need of an upgrade, and it had wasted the capital. Dennis Eidson left the company fucked, and went to join Spartan Stores. He is now CEO of Spartan Stores, and Farmer Jack was liquidated. He now makes gobs of money, destroyed the jobs of the people who worked under him, destroyed shareholder value, etc.

He's not the only one from the Farmer Jack executive team who found themselves a cushy job at Spartan Stores later. Meanwhile, the company that they purchased, VG's Food and Pharmacy, which used to make money hand over fist, cut its staffing hours which reduced the customer service and cleanliness of the stores, stopped carrying specialty items, outsourced the production of its specialty goods, started carrying lower quality produce, meats, and deli items, and got itself into a price war with the local Super Wal-Mart. Right before I left they'd set up a discount card which had proven irritating to customers, and sales were down almost 50% over previous years. In short, it was a high quality, high price supermarket in an affluent area, and it scared away its high priced customers while lowering its employees wages to the point where they could only afford to shop at Wal-Mart.

Yet Dennis Eidson and many others of the Farmer Jack executive team still have jobs, despite absolutely destroying the Farmer Jack franchise, and besmirching the reputation and destroying 50 years of hard work by the Van Gilder family. And yes, Spartan Stores and A&P are both publicly traded companies. So yeah, you can fuck up royally as a rich executive and still have everything turn out okay. And while I don't expect you to accept my one example of anecdotal evidence as truth, the same thing happened in the banking industry, with many top executives finding jobs elsewhere after the dust settled.

Never said it was. May not even be the parents' acheivement, or their parents'. Fortunately, scratching it out digging ditches or turning wrenches is only a prerequisite of rightful ownership in certain peoples' sick little imaginations.

Society doesn't. Enforcement agencies, for which I pay just like everyone else, protect my property rights.

Bald-faced fucking lie. The exchange is the taxes I pay to fund police, military, etc. Things that are actually useful to me in the protection of my rights. It is not useful to me to be burdened with the short-sighted mistakes of other people. Completely different topics, despite your strained attempt to associate them.

Neither all forms of taxation nor all citizens are due equal credit for the protection of my rights. That it's most convenient to your morally bankrupt entitlement "ideals" to pretend otherwise doesn't change a fucking thing. I pay my taxes. I am not collecting something for nothing.

Go fuck yourself you dishonest fucking hosebag. Your entire meritless argument here rests on the conflation of social safety nets with government functions that protect my rights. They are not one and the same, one does not necessitate the other, and I don't owe my neighbors a fucking thing just for existing.

If he's a true friend, the former is patently false. The latter, historically, tends to be true.

And the two are as comparable as apples and socket wrenches.

Neato. Now lets go back and ask them if "promote the general welfare" meant "everyone who fails at life gets free money" and not "secure the peoples' rights and don't tax their asses off".

just remember cupcake, "everyone who fails at life gets free money", that's your definition.

mine would be phrased more along meaning "a society that promotes opportunity and just treatment of it's weakest members" rather than "creates and supports an enobled few at the expense of increased national prosperity.".

Man, what are you gonna do when you get outsourced?

So what you're saying is, the needs of your neighbors are irrelevant. That outside of paying for governmental functions that protect your rights, your neighbors are fucked?

So if you can pay for your own police force for your compound, are your neighbors fucked on that too? I mean, as you said, all that really matters are government functions that protect your rights, and if you don't need those functions, you shouldn't have to pay for them.

I know what he won't do if he's not a total hypocrite.

Get a college education.

Yes, he just works in outer space.

Jefferson had a lot to say about that.

Funny, because he considered the abolition of entails (a form of inheritance which cannot be taken from the owner) in Virginia to be among his great achievements.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Sp...esidents The Statesman's Manual Vol 3&f=false

How do you get to $232? Mine hardly ever tops $100 -- only when it's really cold or really hot -- and is about $40 or $50 in the spring and fall.

Does your house have insulation problems? There may be help available for weatherizing.

Warfare requires action.

Aiming upwards also requires action. Aiming downward, however, only requires you to sit back, secure in the knowledge that our system is pretty well configured to ensure that once you're down, you darn well stay down.

Walmarts may be open 24 hours, but I'm pretty sure they'll still kick you out if you try to sleep there.

If charitable contributions provided for all those in need, taxes and social programs wouldn't be necessary.

Now this is the part where they all start howling "Oh, if the mean old tax man didn't take all our money, we'd be able to give more to charity!!!!"

If there weren't so many taxes there'd be more money for both charity and for people to see to their own needs and those of their families and friends. Thus negating the need for those social programs.

I reckon you fantasize about mobs of minorities gang raping you in order to assuage your white guilt.

You're the socialist Ayn Rand.

Since he's referred to his wife as his pet, I'm sure it's doggie.