http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/rubios-health-care-project-comes-empty-florida To be fair, it only cost the state $1 million because it amounted to nothing more than linking to companies which gave donations to Marco Rubio but the much talked about and much waited for (we waited 6 years to see this Republican alternative to Obamacare), and the net result is just 30 individuals bothered to sign up. In the entire state of Florida, just 30 people. Of course, there are good reasons why no one bothered to sign up for Rubio's "Republican alternative" but the main reason is because it sucks. It costs dramatically more than what is offered in the exchanges, even before subsidies, and the level of coverage is much, much worse. In short, it's garbage.
Oh, and Florida is also one of the moronic Republican controlled states which is seeing hospitals go bankrupt because they refuse to expand medicaid. Something which wouldn't cost the state government a penny. Even after the five years of free coverage the FED will cover 90% of all costs of medicaid forever. It is a deal and a half for states but Republicans are so blinded by their hatred of Obama they just won't take free money. They would rather let poor people die. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...m-that-medicaid-expansion-funds-will-go-away/
On a price per person basis Rubio's "Republican alternative to Obamacare" was a complete and total failure. Costing 33,333.33 per person signed up. Shit, way to make Obamacare look damn good in comparison, Republican wingnuts.
That's because it's Obamacare. It's fucking stealing! We don't want it with Obama's name on it, we don't want it with Rubio's name on it, we don't fucking want it! Take it the fuck away! For once -- for fucking ONCE! -- Do what you pretend that you do, and listen to the people! We do not WANT this shit! FUCKING STOP!!! STOP STEALING!!!
The really funny and revealing part is that the old medicaid system, the one Republicans claim to want to keep because... OBAMA, had costs split 50-50 between the state and the Feds. Even at its lowest level the new ACA medicaid expansion covers 90%. That means even after you expand medicaid to cover more people each state will still end up paying less. But Republicans want to "fight" the ACA and don't care if the state ends up saving money while your average Republican voter truly is a clueless drooling idiot. We are talking brainwashed stupid fucks who still think the President is an illegal alien, that their are secret death panels designed to kill them, that Democrats want to steal everything they have so they can give it to negros, that Sadam was being 9/11, and that we some how did find WMD in Iraq. True, drooling fucking idiots who are completely factually wrong on just about every topic imaginable.
I don't know where to start, @Dinner rambled quite a bit on this. I guess I'll start with this, fuck Rachael Madcow. There, got that out of the way. Next, this lie that the Reublicans have offered no alternative to Obamacare really needs to be put to bed, but people like Rachael Madcow continue repeating it and MSDNC doesn't correct her on it, and yet has the nerve to tell Fox viewers how they are constantly being lied to. The fact is that the Democrats want it their way or no way. None of the Republican solutions hhave ever been accepted. I also think we need to put to bed the lie that the only reason that Republicans oppose Obamacare simply because there is a black man in the White House. This is simply not true and can easily be refuted. Another lie that needs to be put to bed is that Republican Governors refuse Medicaid expansion because of Obama. Republicans governors are elected officials who are elected for by the people of thier states. It's more likely that the people of the individual states have spoken up against the exspansion and that's why they choose not to expand Medicaid. It also could be that they don't want federal money tied to yet another program. It could be several reasons. But like Obamacare itself, Democratic talking points are based on lies.
Isn't the Republican alternative to Obamacare... Obamacare? I mean, yeah, it was RomneyCare, but then it was fiddled with a bit, and the Republicans in congress got to make some changes, and what we have now is the end result.
It depends. The Hatch/Upton proposal has its good points and its bad points, but is at least an honest attempt to address the issue. Most of the others seem to fall in with the laughable "Just limit lawsuits and let insurance companies sell across state lines, and then the Almighty Free Market will make everything peaches and cream" fantasy.
Obamacare is far from perfect, but the GOP had a good eight years in office to bring something to the table. Fuck them.
Republicans loved Obamacare back before a black man agreed with them and said he supported it too. Then they hated it. FF did a lot of sputtering and changing the subject but that fact won't change. Also, no, since ditching the only healthcare plan Republicans have had in decades, because a black man agreed with them that it actually should be made law, the Republicans have been completely without an alternative for half a decade until, tired of rightly be called out for being lying pieces of dog shit, Rubio came up with some really stupid warmed over crap that was destined to fail (we will gives tax breaks to poor people who already don't pay income taxes, who lack the ability to pay, and magically that will work!). And fail was exactly what it did. Hard core failure just like virtually all of the Republican "ideas" over the last half century.
First off, it is fucking floriduh. It has a large number of redneck turds. The old tards in this state who's healthcare is mainly paid for by medicare voted a few times for Rick Scott who is responsible for stealing millions from medicare. The thing that surprises me is Scott turned down the money his old business could steal. I guess it means he is getting better money from the medical industry now. Still, after getting a good look at their ballots I can understand why they vote D or R. There were less pages to the ACA.
Not that I like having to pay insurance companies a dime, but could you do something like explaining your reasoning because you have none here, and your reputation for complete dumbfuckery makes you less reliable than Bill Orielly.
So aside from returning to the old pre-obamacare system which was worse than Obamacare, what other alternatives have been offered and ignored? Republicans have pretended they have a solution, but they have brought very little if anything forward. If they have brought something forward it was completely insane by any standard and ignored for being so. If they can get Obamacare in to and through congress why have we not seen any alternative to it from our republican idiots who had years to develop something and at least 2 months to put it on the floor of the republican controlled house so it could have it's chance in the now republican controlled senate? Oh yeah, it is because they do not want anything getting in the way of insurance company profits. You are not going to get a good system with the insurance companies, and the reason obamacare has insurance companies involved is clearly because that is what it took to get the republican votes. They would never have voted for it without the mandate that require billions more for their friends in power. Please do quit pretending the republicans hate that part. They love that we are all now required to pay to the insurance people. The only thing that would make the reps happier with it would be if they removed the caps from the law and allowed insurance to kick sick people off the roles again.
