A visionary leader sees what's coming. A competent leader sees obvious happenings and compensates or changes course. A blind one is so wedded to his ideology and self-importance that he can be punched in the face repeatedly and raped in the ass and he still won't have a clue. Obama now thinks that letting Iran have the unlimited and unchecked ability to import and export weapons and terrorists will make the Middle East more stable.
I don't think President Obama actually thinks that. I do think President Obama thinks "Hell, if they get the bomb it will be years after I leave office so it won't be my problem anyway".
No. It's saying that what he said then, about a situation two years earlier, had merit then, but that over time, that situation has changed, and what he said then is no longer the case. Also note, that he not still making that years-old claim, now is he?
Er, no. He doesn't think that. You think he thinks that, but you're a hateful, bigoted, biased moron.
His whole point was that they weren't a threat. Of course not. Now he's saying that he didn't mean what he said. He'd have to be an idiot to still be making that claim.
Now it's getting silly. Some clueless bonehead was saying the DOD (Dept. Of Defense) will certainly change their tune about making recruiting stations and military bases "gun free zones." Basically allow all manner of military folk to walk around armed during the course of their non-combat zone/shooting range duties. My first reactions was but soon changed to . Sorry Charlie, that ain't happening. Nut jobs could do this on a weekly basis and no post commanders are going to touch that hot potato. The first time some soldier accidentally does a Barney Fife and shoots themselves or someone else in the foot in front of moms & their kids at the post Burger King it will be a nuclear shit-storm. We (military) will be "soft targets" for a long long time to come.
And at that point he was talking about (That time in 2012 when he'd described Al Qaeda as Decimated), they (ISIL/ISIS) weren't any more of a threat than hundreds of other little spin-off factions. They were rightly perceived as just another JV team. Then things obviously changed. He didn't say that they were still perceived that way, because they weren't. He merely explain what had been believed at the time he'd made the earlier statement.
It's obvious as hell that he wrongly perceived ISIS as just another JV team. I'm not anti-Obama at all, but he was WRONG there.
Er, how do ya figure? I maintain it was true at the time. Things changed, and when the statement no longer accurately reflected the situation, it ceased being used to describe the situation. Like virtually everything else that changes over time.
Because they were kicking ass before he said that, and they've been kicking ass ever since. They obviously weren't the JV team Obama thought they were.
One of the key differences between Al Qaeda and ISIS is that AQ was much more of a structured organization, with a chain of command and leadership who determined a unified course of action. IS is a loosely affiliated group of people with the same general goals. Anybody who carries out an attack and claims to have been inspired by them can be part of IS. Also, AQ was fixated on creating a major spectacle, they didn't waste time on piddly little shooting attacks. Those are the only kind of attacks IS is capable of launching in the West at this point.
The certainly didn't remain the JV Team Obama identified them as. That happened over time, 'cause things change over time.
Or maybe the experienced people knew ISIS was much more than Obama figured on, and it was only a surprise to Obama. Guarantee when any leader says "we didn't see this coming" their underlings did see it coming. In Iraq we busted a fucking gut laughing when Bush did the aircraft carrier thing and proclaimed "mission accomplished!" Well he was right, the "mission" of his photo op went off without a hitch.
Up to the above post (#8), you yourself have said nothing about the topic either, just posted sarcastic remarks about other posters.
Perceptions changed because Situations changed. That's the way reality works. Well, in the sense that virtually everyone can be proven wrong in hindsight, sure. "cause, you know, things change over time.
Are you able to tie your own shoes? Really, after that statement I am pretty sure someone else does it for you.
One thing I have to say, muslim terrorists are at least decent enough to die when they do this shit. We wont have to see pictures of this asshole sticking his tongue out like right wing terrorist roof did. Can't you conservative christians do anything right?
Sure, If I say (and actually believe) that I'll bang Jessica Alba this weekend I may be proven wrong in hindsight. But I'm guessing not many other people shared my optimistic viewpoint. You are seriously and BTW remember to stretch out and warm up when you are to support Obama on this issue.
I don't "support" Obama in this situation. I merely don't go out of my way to misrepresent this situation as a huge failing on his part, when it's simply the way the world has always worked, and likely the way it always will. Shit happens. You adapt. What was once true no longer is, and has been supplanted by a new truth, which represents the new situation. No strenuous acrobatics required on my part. Just awareness and acceptance, both of which are low impact, and not particularly stressful.
Only Lubek and Archie, unless you see yourself reflected in Post #2. Do you? If not, try saying something that deviates from the script.
Um, ISIS didn't even exist as a separate group in 2012. Go forward about two years and you'll find them.
That's probably why he didn't actually mention them by name. At the time being discussed, they were just another obscure faction trying to fill the power void, So obscure they hadn't even settled on a name yet. That sure sounds pretty damn "JV team" to me.
Yeah, and that JV team has him totally stumped. He can't fight them militarily because they are too strong, so he says the fight will be a generational struggle. Your children and grand children will be fighting ISIS, who can field about a tenth as many troops as George Bush defeated in about three days of ground combat, as did his father. It sucks when a pussy is President.
Why haven't you killed yourself? You are obviously unhappy so why not join Jesus and make the rest of us happy?
By your reasoning, an accurate statement about the present is inaccurate if it doesn't also apply to the future.
No, right from the git-go the news I was watching said he was not an employee or ex-employee. Not saying he was a terrorist (guilty until proven innocent) but no possible way anybody can spin it into a workplace incident.
It obviously wasn't accurate at the time though, was it? I'm not saying that I agree with the idiots who keep bringing it up all the time to bash Obama with. It's not like we should move our military back in and squash every single group that starts causing trouble just because they might be Al Qaida on steroids. But pretending like Obama was right about them being them not being a threat is bonkers.
