Worst President Ever?

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  3. gturner

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    No, if it was because he was black then Ben Carson wouldn't be leading everyone but the billionaire ass clown in the race for the Republican nomination.
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    Mittens K Rominey!
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    The latest attack in Mali shows that Romney was indeed right about absolutely everything on foreign policy.
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    Worst President ever, no, that would be this guy.
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    I think the worst President would in reality be either Polk or Buchanan. Obama is by far the worst since Nixon or LBJ.
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    James Buchanon will always be the worse.
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    Hmmmm, Bad presidents? I think the dumbfuck actor ronald reagan was one of the worst. Then you have Little Bush who squandered a huge surge and also let 9/11 happen on his watch. Then there is Nixon, he was pretty bad.
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    Bush was the one who made the surge, which worked so well that Obama and Biden claimed that Iraq was their greatest foreign policy success - as they pulled out and squandered the surge.
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    I think Polk may be the worst because he intentionally started he Mexican-American war.
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    Isn't that better than starting a war by accident?
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    No. Starting a war by accident is an accident. Starting a war on purpose is unforgivable. Don't get me wrong, I think Obama's leadership is non-existent, but he didn't do this on purpose (as far as I know), he's just incompetent. Polk deberitely took us to war over ideology and self righteousness. And Buchanan sat on his hands when he could have potentially prevented the civil war.
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    We got California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, and Nevada out of it, an area the size of Western Europe, while only suffering as many combat deaths as states like New Hampshire or Vermont would in the Civil War (less than taking Normandy beach). I'd call that genius!
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    The problem is we got Utah out of it :ramen:
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    Trying to figure out who the worst president is is like trying to figure out the worst way one can lose their penis in an unfortunate accident. Some might be worse than others, but they're all terrible.
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    Sorry, forced to disagree. Any and all war should be defensive, not offensive. Perhaps you should re-read Thomas Paine and/ or Toqueville?
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    It was defensive. Mexico shouldn't have declared war and invaded.
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    At the ASEAN summit Obama declared we "will not relent" in the fight against ISIS. How can he relent when he hasn't even lented yet? He's also wrong to call it a "US led coalition". "Led" requires leadership, and not even a forensic investigator could implicate Obama as a person of interest in the fight against ISIS.
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    The Mexican war was defensive, as it resulted from Mexico invading Texas. That said, it was also aggressive. But if we go by your standard, the United States shouldn't even exist in the first place.
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    Abraham Lincoln didn't think so.

    Though to be fair, the American people wanted war with Mexico.
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    Perhaps you should re-read American History?
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    Many historians disagree with what started the war and the believe that much like Bush, Polk wanted the war in order to gain more territory for the US.
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    How did Bush want to gain more territory for the U.S.?
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    I am in rare agreement with you here, but I would love to see your response to @gul's last sentence.
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    Abraham Lincoln as others believed that Polk deliberately sent American troops into a disputed territory knowing they would be attacked by the Mexicans. Hence Congressman Lincoln introducing the so called "Spot Resolutions" demanding that Polk identify the exact spot where U.S. troops were when attacked.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spot_Resolutions
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    I don't know about ever but the worst President in my life time was Bush jr. By a wide margin.
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    Oh please. Bush (he isn't a "Jr.") was far better than the idiotic alternative.
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