Looks like @Dinner's anti-Muslim rhetoric is working!

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...agrabah-disney-aladdin-donald-trump?CMP=fb_us

I'm trying to decide if this is hilarious or just plain alarming. Definitely one for the "only in America" folder.

There's a town named Aladdin in Wyoming. Perhaps we should bomb that too, for good measure?

A poll demonstrates that a large percentage of people are idiots. That's really not an "only in America" result, nor, unfortunately, is it alarming.

The real question is whether these idiots can learn, or whether, like Dinner, they are impervious to evidence.

I'm sure that the totally innocuously neutral-sounding "Public Policy Polling"

made sure to also ask Democrats whether they support supporting Agrabah in its conflict with Israel.

This is like the "let's film stupid people on the street saying stupid things than edit out all the nonstop I'd people" videos which are so popular on late night tv. You can make them any where with enough push polling and they say more about the idiots asking them the idiots who play along.

I am not surprised Chup fell for it as it might be nonsense but it is nonsense which confirms his biases. Much like how Gul recently fell for that fake exchange between the dumb conservative and the smart liberal because it confirmed his biases.

What have I "fallen for"? How does a poll "edit out" the smart people?

In case you hadn't notice, the percentage of those polled who thought this was a good idea is a minority. So are you claiming that the poll result is false and those polled weren't Republicans?

It was a nonscientific poll, dude. You were dumb enough to fall for it.

You haven't answered my questions (as usual).

What have I fallen for?

You claim it's a nonscientific poll, but it's a random sampling of Republican (Well, Trump) voters is it not?

or

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...kill-gay-man-womens-clothes-snake-neck-Sweden

If we want to talk about real problems then let's talk about this rent murder in Sweden where a gay man was doing charity work handing out food and clothing to muslim migrants who then attacked and murdered him for being gay. The migrants then dressed his dead body up in women's clothing, killed his pet snake, and tied the dead snake around his neck.

That is just one of dozens and dozens of cases which happen all the time.

Actually, they polled members of both parties. Democrats did better, but not well enough. Republicans split 30-13, with 57% undecided, in favor of bombing Agrabah. Democrats split 19-36, with 45% undecided, against the bombing campaign.

And, of course, whether or not the poll is "scientific," Dinner is just making shit up and has no actual basis for his "discussion" of the quality of the poll. But that's just what he does when it comes to talking about Muslims. You might as well ask a baby not to shit in its diaper as ask Dinner to have a well considered opinion about Muslims, or even to have an opinion that's been considered at all.

This is the kind of ridiculous thing you get like asking people if hydrogen dioxide should be banned.

Bull. You and I both know this was not a representative sample. Asking random people on the street in one city or doing an Internet pill does not give good results. You have to have a representative sample in order to get good results.

Not surprisingly, you completely misunderstood the point of that thread. These push poll folks must love you.

Hell, even just calling people on landlines does not create a representative sample as so many young people no longer have landlines. You have to carefully balance races, genders, ages, etc... to get valid results and you know they didn't do that in this one as the sample size is so small.

You're the idiot who does not understand basic stastics. Without a good representative sample the results are worthless.

Two things, then I'll let you go hack to your monologue of stupid:

1. I have not taken a position on the validity of the poll nor its methodology.
2. You do not have any basis to critique either, since the methodology is not described in the article.

I recall Penn & Teller did the same thing about five years ago and while the results are funny they are also not scientifically valid. Like Penn & Teller they just started asking random people on the street which does not give us a representative sample.

Like I said, it is funny but nonrepresentative samples often give wildly inaccurate results. I see the OP has wildly, way out there results and thus would very much like to see their methodology as it has all the looks of a similar self selected nonrepresentative poll.

I've conducted polls before and I can tell you unequivocally that if you frame the questions right you can get a huge number of people to advocate nearly anything.

Remember, my class once competed to see how large a percentage of random people polled we could get to advocate a return to slavery. The winner got well over 40%.

Okay then Din Dins. Let's play a little game shall we?

This poll, from the Pew Research Centre, you treated like the word of God. It demonstrated indisputable fact according to you. Funny how when a poll suits your agenda they can be relied on isn't it? This poll, which was of 600 people, is unquestionably scientific, eh?

Well, how about another poll from exactly the same source? This poll says that the vast majority of people in countries with significant Muslim populations have disdain for the beliefs of ISIS, quite contrary to your bogus claim that all Muslims believe in extremist views. What do you say about that? That it's somehow less reliable when it doesn't support your racist rhetoric?

No doubt I won't get a credible answer. You'll either run away as usual or post something unrelated, furthering your usual cowardice.

In fairness El Chup surely you must acknowledge that some polls are highly accurate while some are complete crap.

I do. People need to have evidence that polls are "complete" crap to declare them as such though. Dinner doesn't have that. He just declares the crap polls to be the ones that don't confirm to his narrative. That's why I have asked him about two polls from the same source, one which he treated as accurate, and the other which contradicts his narrative.

You mean dihydrogen monoxide don't you?

The DHMO comparison only goes so far. That people thought Agrabah was real isn't a huge problem. Phrasing the question that way can arguably be considered an implicature that it exists, i.e. the poll lied to its subjects about that. Yes, educated people would have known better, but that's no huge deal. That's like DHMO.

What is a huge deal, and not covered by the DHMO comparison, is that 30% of GOP voters, when asked about a country they cannot possibly have any specific kind of opinion about because it doesn't actually exist, recommend bombing it just for the hell of it.

They were evil Democrats pretending to be Republicans, desperately trying to tarnish the image of their opponents.

Annnnnd, 17 hours later and no response, just as predicted.

@Dinner, you pathetic little coward. Big mouth, small brain.

He's probably on a bender.

We're not allowed to call them that these days. Besides, if they both consent, it's none of our business.

No, I just have better things to do than respond to Chup. He is last in line.

Transataion:- I've been called out again and can't answer again because I'm a low level racist and mentally weak.

Got it.