Charles Murray Maps "Bubbles" of Elitism

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  1. Steal Your Face

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    It wouldn't work. I suspect there were one or two questions in particular that drove down my score, but figuring out which might be tough. I think I answered a lot of the questions in a non-bubble fashion (per Murray's definition). I've lived on a farm, been to Alabama, worked physically tasking/damaging jobs, drank shit beer, watched all manner of sporting events (even rodeo and drag racing), and lived on food stamps as a child. I'm not on Sarah Palin's level by any means, but I really do have a very wide expanse of experiences, including all five income quintiles. The test is shit, just as we should expect from its designer.
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    Not worldly, but better for not being so; and definitely "more American," whatever that means.
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    I did learn a lot more about fire ants, cockroaches, and crazy neighbors who think they are wolves and wear tinfoil hats than I used to before living in AL. I learned how to shower with a bucket when the water pump goes out. I learned never ever shop in walmart after church lets out. I learned that whatever the small town population is 3x as many people go to church on sunday in your town. I learned that black ice causes redneck shiny truck ice capades. There is nothing like watching a town of rednecks put their F150s into a ditch because each one had to t4ry and pull the last one out. It was a fail parade outside the house. I learned some days you come out of your house and your lawn is burned up like a napalm attack. I learned that white trash gets welfare while the black people work in the office taking their applications.

    How does any of this make me better?
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    :unsure: It's your life, you tell me.

    Obviously you don't fit the profile of the author's ideal white American. You've just had a great deal of exposure to that type.
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    Rural upbringing + military + living in a poorer (for Seattle) majority minority neighborhood inflates my score more than it probably deserves.
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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    Interesting... I got a 54 the first time, then I changed some of the answers. Mainly the one about wearing a uniform for work (LEO) and having a job that makes the body ache all over, which was also LEO. Had to wear a uniform for that obviously, plus the physical training did make me hurt all over. That changed the score from the 54 to a 46.

    So while it may be good at generalizing your "bubble" score it does lack some accuracy. It isn't farm work or factory work, but the physical training is pretty hard. But once you get used to it, it goes away.
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    I got 56, for whatever that means.
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    Interesting. My score was probably heavily influenced by having been in the military and having grown up in farm country.
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    I must move out to one of these bubbles.
    I hate snobs, but I hate rednecks more.
    A snob will look at you like you're made of dog shit, and wet hot garbage, but they won't drag you to death from the back of their pickup truck for not Jesus-ing.
    I can let the former roll off my back, not so much the latter.
    Perspective.
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    Of course snobs don't drag you from the back of their pickup. They say "begone with you" and then hire a couple rednecks to haul you away like that.
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    I scored a 67. I could only name one of the military ranks for example. I don't drink nor do I hang around people that smoke (can't stand the smell) so that probably lowered my overall score. And I had seen only one of the movies listed.
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    When has that ever happened? The only dragging death that I can recall was when the three white guys in Texas dragged James Byrd (hope I got the name right) to death in what was a racial attack.
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    Soon enough with Pat Robertson, Glenn Beck, and Alex Jones stirring up the shit.
    :diacanu:
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    In other words never. Pat Robertson as far as I know has never assaulted anything but good taste.

    Beck is a Mormon, and aside from the Mountain Meadows Massacre 150 years ago, Mormons are not known for violence.

    Don't know Alex Jones.
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    @Dayton3 Mormon violence now days is much more subtle.
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    No kidding? Post a link.
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    Tell that to the girl he murdered on 1990. :bergman:











    Yes, Dayton this is a joke. The meme was big about five years ago but I dunno how it got started.
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    I wondered sine IIRC Beck had a staggering substance abuse problem.
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    And how often does someone get dragged behind a truck for not Jesus-ing? :chris:Annually, monthly, weekly? Or maybe one time in the past twenty years would be more like it.
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    Post a link for that one time.
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    The south is like Afghanistan, nothing living comes back, drones vanish, I can only assume it's The Purge meets Festival 24/7.
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    You do realize that most American soldiers who served in Afghanistan came back unscathed don't you.

    Your analogy is as stupid as the rest of your posts.
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    Depends on how you define "unscathed". There have been plenty of soldiers coming back with PTSD and higher rates of alcohol and drug use.

    More of our men and women return than previous conflicts but anyone that thinks you can come out of a war zone the same way you went in needs to put down the crack rocks they're smoking.
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    I got a 41. This:
    Pretty much covers it for me.