So I googled Dayton out of curiosity and...

2) Did not. Operating within school policy while supervised by a superior at school. All within the laws of the state.
3) Not a felony by the laws of the state given no damage.
4) IIRC in Texas at that time, a business is allowed to stop a thief if necessary to retrieve stolen property.

We just don't know. How can we take the word of a career criminal at face value.

I posted more than ample proof your hit and run was a felony, according to the laws of Arkansas and proof that the 5mph hit can cause more damage than just some scratches (which are damage in themselves) that can reach over $3000 to repair.

The choking would be covered under use of force continuum, and would fall under such a ruling. Use of a choke hold falls just under deadly force, which according to use of force guidelines which LEO and Loss Prevention fall under would be at level 1 or 2 at the most, choking falls under level 6, which means that someone was under imminent danger of serious bodily injury, or death. Those fall under levels 4, 5, and 6. You are damn lucky you were not sued, because when you choked the person you could have very easily killed him. At most, you were legally allowed to use level three, which is soft handed control use.

Right of self defense. He pushed me and grabbed me before I applied a chokehold.

Are you suggesting I have no right to defend myself.? Prior to him pushing me and grabbing me all I did was stand close to him and ask him not to leave until the police arrived.

Especially since he choked the guy outside this store likely on

He pushed you? Why? Why did you put yourself in a position that you ended up with imperfect self defense?

I knew little about self defense back then.

And in Texas you were not allowed to stop a shoplifter inside a store on the theory that they had not committed any kind of crime until actually leaving with the merchandise.

A push is soft handed, not hard handed nor is it immediate danger of serious injury or death. Hard handed is joint locks, pain compliance or similar. Level 5 would be intermediate such as taser, pepper sprays, batons. They cause soft tissue injury meant to disable temporarily. Level six can cause severe injure, permanent injury, or death. Choking falls under that, no way in hell could the defense of he pushed me so I choked him and accidentally killed\disabled him permanent;y ever be considered proper force. Pushing him back would be fine, so would a joint lock or a muscle/nerve strike. You choked him, even LEO's are not allowed to use such a move on someone who is resisting or pushing them.

A choke is considered deadly force under continuum use of force. Can you really justify he stole (insert item here) and pushed me, so I accidentally killed him?

^He didn't even lose consciousness. I released him when he said he couldn't breathe.

Funny though. For a man who "couldn't breathe" he sure ran fast enough.

You're lying, again.

So you not only lie, you also commit acts which can be felonies, or considered felonies. You stated you choked him into unconsciousness and then you lie that you didn't. And also proven that you commit crimes even though you state that you don't.

I was simply exaggerating. Strictly speaking he dropped to his knees and wheezed "I can't breathe". At which point I let him go. He inhaled a lung full of air and then started running.

I pursued until I slipped on the ice and face planted.

So you're lying one way or another way, from the guy who says he doesn't lie. Even then, the choking is still application of deadly force in a situation that doesn't warrant such an action. You still committed a crime, then lied about the crime or committing such a crime. And that wasn't the only crime you've admitted to on here. So that's at least one felony, and possibly two felonies you committed against others.

The ice.

In Texas.

Okay

Die Ed.

You know full well that even if the shoplifter complained to police they would've done nothing.

You clowns love to complain that I don't do what I'm told to do at work. But when in this case I do what a superior tells me to do you bitch and moan about.

And why this obsession with things I've done YEARS ago!!!! Every last one that you gentlemen list took place MORE THAN TEN YEARS AGO and all of you know that.

It speaks volumes that you and your ilk continue to bring it up.

Find something new.

We have snow and ice in Texas as well you know.

It happens.

Fortunately not that often, but it definitely does. I hit a patch of it while covering an ice storm several years ago and wrecked my news unit.

And here's why it's a felony, the following is considered aggravated assault in Texas. And Aggravated assault is most often a 2nd degree felony, with possible penalties of 2-20 years in prison, and fines of up to $10,o00.

Well bummer Ed.

No matter.

So once again, you insult when presented with something you can't refute or defend against. So typical.

I didn't bring it up, you started with rear ending the old lady, then defending it. Someone else brought up the shoplifter, you defended it by saying it wasn't a crime. I provided proof that it was. Maybe, just maybe you shouldn't post every little thing about yourself.

You didn't say why you are obsessed about events from more than ten years ago?

I made a post, on a discussion board, about something that was posted. If you don't like it, go start your own board or stay off this one. Have I said anything that wasn't true in this instance, have I made anything up. You made the original posts, I commented on them, and provided proof which you would have asked for. So according to posts you've made regarding debate, I have done what you wanted. Provided proof.

By the way Faceman, BLUE ROOM STUFF EDITED OUT BY BAILEY

I admitted it at the time, but nobody believed me.

Don't bring other peoples Blue Room posts out of there.

What the hell's the matter with you man? Haven't you been warned or banned enough times about ripping stuff out of the blue room or PMs?

We can't expect @Dayton3 to obey the rules in here when he frequently breaks the law in real life.

True. But being a superior entity to our sort of "ilk", I'm sure he's above the law.

I find it difficult to believe that your supervisor instructed you to choke a man.

IIRC correctly he said "Stop him. Don't let him leave".

Now, that was at least 14 years ago as I know it was prior to the 2000 presidential election as the week of the election was when I was promoted into management.

Note, in my three years at the Texarkana Lowe's Home Improvement Warehouse before I was promoted and transferred to Tyler, TX. EVERY member of management there was fired. Including the Store Managers several times over.

It was quite the carousel.

What the fuck Dayton?

Stop him, don't let him leave doesn't equal choke him out.