Why is gturner banned?

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  1. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I'd like an answer to this, please.
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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I haven't been keeping up on things, but it looks like they just dumped him cuz they didn't like him.

    I didn't like the bastid, but I didn't like a lot of bastids the owners never nutted up and banned.

    Take out the trash consistently, or don't do it at all.
    This cherry-picked shit is obvious grudge stuff.
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  3. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    He was a cancer. As already stated, there isn't a more precise, rule based answer. Things are going to change around here or Wordforge is going to become another 4Chan. Nobody wants to pay for that shit, so some changes are coming. And no, they aren't all worked out, so don't ask. But if it looks like 4chan (and some common sense is required here), then it probably won't fly. In the mean time, I suggest people enjoy this period when the evil owners are a bit busy with real life.
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  4. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Oh, and I decided to ban Faceman for calling Anna a Tijuana donkey fucker. That is not called for, ever.
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  5. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    I don't really pay attention to the drama, and don't have a "side" here because I never worshiped the sacredness of the original Wordforge model. You do a thing as long as it works and when someone comes along and takes advantage of the way things are done to piss all over everyone, then you either get used to golden showers or turn off the tap. I don't think either solution is inherently "wrong" - just pick one.

    But i do agree with Dicky, and seem to recognize the sentiment in your reply, there are a handful of folks riding the same hobby horse here, if we're sick of it then enforce it consistently. That seems a reasonable requirement.
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  6. Soma

    Soma OMG WTF LOL STFU ROTFL!!!

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    So now we can't insult others in the Red Room?
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  7. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    This is more troublesome than the other bans. Out of all the things Faceman has said and done to earn previous bans, this ranks pretty low given it was in the Red Room. Personal attacks against users have always been allowed in the Red Room. Much worse things have been said in the RR, including against Anna. (I obviously disagree with Face entirely but he should not have been banned for it)

    How long is his ban for? And was this ban issued in the context of the ongoing board drama? I.e. can we expect similar personal attacks in the RR to be OK again once this all subsides?
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  8. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    In other words: "because we felt like it."
    Well, gosh, that didn't sound ominous at all.

    If you the owners are going to ban people simply because you don't like them--spare me the cancer bit; gturner was one of the few people to stir the pot here--then this place has fallen very far from what it was.

    Please lock my account. Until this place makes a very major course change, I won't be posting here.
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  9. Ramen

    Ramen Banned

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    You should stop making bad decisions.
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  10. Ramen

    Ramen Banned

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    ELECTRICAL SUPERSTORMS!!!
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  11. Bickendan

    Bickendan Custom Title Administrator Faceless Mook Writer

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    I'm overturning this.
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  12. Zombie

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    We aren't even close to ever turning into 4chan.
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  13. Zombie

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    In the Red Room?

    You go down that road you better be willing to ban everyone.

    You really need to sell your slice of the board. You've got no business running this place or being in charge of anything.

    Lanzman, you're an okay guy but you should be shot in both knee-caps for selling to Gul. ;)
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  14. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti-establishment Staff Member Administrator

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    I did think at one point that there was a case to be made for banning gturner under rule 3 (spamming without any prior contribution). This is because since he arrived he has never made a Red Room post in what I would consider "good faith," as in arguing for a point of view he really believes in, prepared to be challenged if not convinced by opposing arguments. His act is to stake out the most reality-defying position imaginable and defend it at all costs. Any argument against him is either ignored or used as a platform for spouting more absurdities.

    But he has actually contributed in posts outside the Red Room, so I'm not sure banning is warranted. We've never really had a procedure for banning somebody from only the Red Room, so it would be good to have some more discussion and figure out what we're doing with that.
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  15. Soma

    Soma OMG WTF LOL STFU ROTFL!!!

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    You're fired. :brood:
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    It's too late for that.

    Gul-Palpatine has already decreed things are going to change and fuck any of you who disagree with said changes. Just look at post #3.

    I suggest we rename The Red Room to The Neutral Zone.

    Also John can change his name to Neroon.

    Anna can become Lisa.

    Gul......

    I won't insult anyone in TrekBBS history by suggesting he change his name to theirs.
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    Zombie dead and loving it

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    In fact here Gul......

    You can use this plan to make your big girl changes at Wordforge. Jsut change a few names and it will work.

    Amazing that TrekBBS still has all these old threads.....
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    What the heck is going on around here?

    Sigh. Well we had a good run. It's been what... 13 years at this place?

    Good times, good times.

    But I guess all good things must come to an end.
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  19. markb

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    No offense but I think this is a very poor decision made in the heat of the moment and should be reversed. It was in the RR, Anna is a big girl, and for both wordforge and @Faceman it was no way close to the worse thing that's ever been said.
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  20. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    I think everybody from all sides needs to take a huge step back. We're in a downward spiral and everyone taking a chill pill will help us pull out.

    To those thinking this is the end of WF and self-imposing an exile, take the weekend to mull it over. We've seen worse shit than this.
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  21. K.

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    @gturner was indeed toxic. But the rest of your post sounds as if you are giving up on the free speech experiment that is WF in a major way, and that is both sad and unwarranted. We've been going for more than a decade and don't look like 4chan at all. Some posters look like they are posting there, but that just exposes them and their shit as helpless and pitiful here.
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  22. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    And yes that's coming from the guy with the TNG manskirt av.
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    I'm free! I'm free! :soma:

    ...I'm getting paid still, right? :unsure:
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    In SovietForge you don't get paid, you pay. Comrade.
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    What the shit is going on?
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  26. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    But, but, but, I thought it was all about Enterpriser?!!!! ;)
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    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    We have a board where there is constant racism and nobody campaigns about it but me.....yet this is ban worthy? It's become a parody.

    It's farcical, and it's all about Gul, not about the board. It's why I have been calling him prideboy and talking about grudges for so long (which has naturally gotten me placed on his shit list). Contrary to what people believe, I'm not that poor a judge of personality and ti was obvious from even before he was offered the keys to the kingdom that he was not objective and unbiased and someone who could separately their own emptions and dislikes for others from their job as owner/mod...and certain people need to put aside their willingness to see posters he wants gone removed as well and otherwise stop giving him a pass because they think he's okay due to his politics. He talks of gturner being a cancer - but he is also the cancer of the mods and equally needs to be removed. In my opinion, there is no place for dismissive arrogance, personal vendettas, scattershot modding and unquestionably polarising figures who are incapable of self reflection - and the fact that the second he become a mod a good number of long terms veterans left should speak volumes about just how polarising he is and why is was never fit to assume that role, that he has gone on to prove that in spades vindicates their concerns. It's even more galling that in the interim at least one person who left because of him ownership ending up passing away.

    I got tired of Lanzman's laziness and his willingness to entertain the bias of Tamar. But christ has this ever proven the old adage "the grass isn't always greener on the other side".With the exception of Xenforo, the new owners have brought no positive changes and now to due to arrogance we see WF on a trajectory towards unknown change will little more than a Trump like secret plan to placate us.
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    "I think everybody from all sides needs to take a huge step back. We're in a downward spiral and everyone taking a chill pill will help us pull out." Guy with the TNG manskirt av
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    Maybe it's because it's 2am and I'm tired, but I'm finding this ironic.
  30. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    The difference is, I'm not in charge. I'm the person who has been coming here for 14 years and on notice direct notice from Gul that he is at risk of sanctions if I criticise mod decisions at a time when the mods are threatening to fundamentally change the nature of the board and ban people at will.

    I don't need to "chill", because I know that "chilling" isn't going to change my mind - precisely because I've watched this coming for the past few years and my opinion isn't likely to change....and of you honestly, honestly think this latest bullshit evidences said person's suitability then you're on something that I need plenty of it seems.
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