Right wing haters and their cheeto lose another bathroom battle.

I guess even if you do elect one of the stupidest and cheesiest nasty fucks in the universe you do not get to force trans kids into the wrong bathroom to hurt them.

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Sorry rightforge, but you lose another battle. Your cheeto in chief has failed yet again, and that court has noted he does not get to make life worse for trans kids just because you assholes want to.

The retarded governor (not for long) of my state tells schools they need to let the weirdos use whatever bathroom they want. Know what many public school administrators are doing? They're telling them to use the bathroom in the nurse's office. I know this because I'm friends with many law enforcement officials from different towns. The freaks & friends of freaks can't do jack about it as there are accommodations being made for them. Boom!

Why are you picking on the color of YOUR President's skin? Are you racist? Are you saying that Orange is the new Black?

Well, while I was talking to @Captain X who was sad because he is red and that is not white enough to be a part of what he feels is the superior race I tried to remind him a little yellow, aka Asian, would make him orange and orange is the new white with the cheeto taking charge of the clan so all the captain needs to do is embrace his weaboo side and partially identify as Japanese and bingo he is the superior race according to the color scheme of racism.

Hey, how is your not raping kids course coming?

You are not friends with the police who make you tell everyone in the neighborhood you touch children. Sort of like it's not really a special achievement to complete a class teaching you how to not touch the toddlers in your church. Other people may clap for you and give you awards as positive reinforcement, but the rest of us actually complied those things because we do not have depraved desires to deal with

You keep bringing this up in regards to TLS.

What are you talking about?

He's saying TLS touches kids.

Fully certified to protect them from you and your fellow bathroom trawlers.

Btw, how are those inner demons treating you?

I made the mistake of letting these cretins know that I'm Virtus certified to spot pedophiles. Pedo-run is simply deflecting his attraction toward kids outward.

Poor wittle trump loving cuck has been triggered and needs a safe space. Perhaps Milo will come over and give you a relaxing massage.

How DO you spot them?
Do they twitch, and sweat, and lick their lips, and pant like a dog at the kid?
Do they follow a kid around with a butterfly net?
Do they carry bouquets of lollipops in both hands?
What 1940's cartoon stereotype did they train you for?


Or, did they just give you a tumescence meter, and pics of Peter Dinklage in a propeller beanie hat to show the "subject"?

Keep me out of your sex fantasies. If you want to fantasize about Milo having his way with you, you can just leave me out of it.

You should take the course if you really care about protecting kids from homosexuals/pedophiles. But you probably don't care about kids.

The irony here is TLS's kids are going to be so fucked up by no one other than him.

The baggage and issues they'll have are going to be mind blowing.

Actually that particular work around is exactly as ethical and moral as "colored" bathrooms.

You can have a third option for anyone who chooses it for added privacy, you can't have a segregated space forced on a minority any more now than you could then. I mean you CAN - a lot of fucked up bullshit things happen because majorities like to abuse minorities - but you can't ethically.

Meanwhile, at least 1.5 million U.S. students attend a school every day which operates under trans-accepting policies including liberty to use the restroom consistent with your identity and presentation and some of these schools have had such policies for a decade or more and in all those multiple millions of students NOT ONE TIME HAS THEIR BEEN A VERIFIED CASE OF A STUDENT "TAKING ADVANTAGE" OR OF A STUDENT COMING TO HARM BECAUSE OF SUCH POLICIES.

So, ya know, I know you lot favor governance by fairy tale so you'd rather legislate out of fear of the thing that never happens than by considering actual facts, but at least you can't say you were never told.

By the way, when are you guys going to get around to legislating the security fences to keep the rampaging hordes of Bigoots out of the schools?

The fascinating thing is that there NEEDS to be a program in the CHURCH that teaches you how to spot sexually predatory behavior IN THE CHURCH and yet the folks in the church still feel like they have standing to accuse those outside the church of being potential predators.

*There's not a single case of a trans person convicted of harming a child in a public segregated space

*There's only one case in the U.S. - and that not yet gone to trial - of a trans person violating (via camera) a woman in such spaces

*There are a handful of cases, averaging less than one a year, of of non-trans men cross-dressing and entering such spaces, but happen - per capita - as often in places without trans-accepting laws as in places with and therefore no connection can be drawn between said laws and these potential predators;

*the overwhelming majority of violations against women and children in segregated "private" spaces such as restrooms and locker rooms occur at the hands of non-trans males who do not bother to disguise themselves or in any way take advantage of the law in order to enter these spaces for the purpose of viewing or harming innocent victims. Again, such incidents do not track or correlate in any way with the existence of trans-affirming laws rules or policies.

*there are a proportional number of trans people who are violent, predatory, perverted, whatever as may be found in the general population - we're neither more or less prone to such deviants among us.

By sharp contrast, the incidence of sexually abusive incidents by ministers or those directly associated with ministries or churches is WILDLY disproportional to their segment of the population, and one can scarcely go a week without finding reports uf multiple incidences (and that not even allowing for the fact that most such events are suppressed and covered up rather than directly exposed to legal and media scrutiny and churches are notorious for creating the potential for further violations by relocating the offender without alerting the new local of his predilections.

So the obvious conclusion is that when the Traditionalist points fingers at others as potential predators, there's a great deal of projection going on.

I do not need to take a course on how to stop molesting children. I cannot even imagine why one would want to, but obviously you can. There is a place in the US where many children are in danger of exploitation and sexual abuse. These are their religious institutions. You need to stop pretending the bathroom is the problem if you actually want to be serious about child molestation. This is how I know you are full of shit about spotting and stopping sexual predators.

If you were serious you would be looking at those people who are trusted. This is not because trusted people are automatically predators, but rather predators know how to fool you, and they are much harder to catch and stop when they are trusted. They are also more easily able to get victims and keep them quiet. Your church gives authority and trust to people including you. The fact that you are looking outside of the church for predators shows you are avoiding where they are, and with the way you were touting your certification you want to be trusted by the people who you lie to. So that when they turn their backs on you, you can slip your dick in their kids.

I identify as female. You need to go to class to show you do not molest children. Which one of us has a problem with children based on those characteristics? I hope when you finally do get busted you spend a long time in prison, and I hope they harass the fuck out of you when you get out. You need to stop thinking a class is all you need to fool the public into thinking you are safe around children.

Tererun has a good point here - faithful trusting church members have no problem with allowing their children to spend long periods of time with adults often far from home during church sponsored sleep-away activities. Then they are shocked/devastated/taken aback when their children end up molested. Or worse yet are reluctant to believe their own children, or confront the alleged molesters. It's like it's an insult to god/the church to dare to think that one of their hallowed elders might be a fucking sub-human pervert. It's like the molesters are hiding behind god as their shield from prosecution.

Yet these same people might be terrified that their children might spend one minute in a public unlocked well lit bathroom with someone who is statistically never going to even notice their children.

Bottom line - you let your kid spend a weekend in the woods (or in a closed-door counseling session) with people that are not actual members of your immediate family yet freak out at the very idea that a man who likes to dress as a woman (or who is now a woman but used to be a man or whatever) might glimpse their privates to encourage their sexual interests. This despite THOUSANDS of cases of the former, and a handful of the latter. Un-fucking-believable as a parent.

True incident: many years ago I let my teen daughter go to a function at a church that her female teen friend attended. It was something they did once a year or whatever and a lot of fun according to her friend, and was a outside even right there at the church. It was some kind of "food fight" or similar messy shit - something teens might like. I dropped her off and talked to the youth counselors or pastors or whatever and found out how long it would last. So a couple of hours later I return and there's my daughter & her friend all covered in the parking lot covered in several types of dripping food & paint products or whatever and of course though everyone washed most of the junk off, they were going to get stuff on my car seats. No big deal, I'm not a "neat freak" so I got over it. My daughter didn't know just how messy this event got.

So about then one of the youth group guys (in his late twenties I guess) shows up shirtless, soaking wet, well muscled and good looking. Everyone was involved with cleaning up before they went home of course. But I got an instant "WHAT - THE - FUCK" feeling when he was thanking me for bringing the kids and saying everyone had fun and whatnot. I was really hit with this curve-ball. My gut instinct said "at no point should an adult male be shirtless around my teen daughter engaged in food tossing and water hose spraying or any such activity." Was I being an old fuddy-duddy? No other parents were concerned, but they were church members. Myself & my daughter were outsiders, so would I overreact to question all this? All during the drive back to drop off my daughter's friend I was very troubled. But then I started thinking when I'm NOT troubled by this (and thus let my guard down permanently) I have failed as a parent. But how many other situations are these church youth leaders (or even more mature clergy) with these kids in the course of a year? This was very disturbing to me.

Lesson learned - no activities like this ever again unless I personally accompany her. Can I keep her from fucking her horny young teen boyfriends? Good luck with that, kids will be kids. But damn right I'll keep her from being around horny full-grown shirtless men.

Truth: per government stats, over 80% of sexual assaults are perpetrated by someone known to and (previously) trusted by the victim.

For victims who are minors, that figure increases to 93%

Family, neighbors, sitters, classmates, friends, teachers, ministers or other church related people, scout and other club leaders, coaches, even cops (falling under "trusted") and similar public officials.

Leaves little room for random strangers in bathrooms.

That bathroom thingy was indeed pure and utter hate. I mean, is that really such a huge problem is has to be tackled within weeks of his inauguration? Over the head of his SoE? One would think there are more pressing problems in the world that need attention. On the other hand, he seems to have lots and lots of time for golf and tweeting so things can't be that bad. Enough time to target a tiny minority just for shits and Breitbart giggles.

the US is a great, epic nation. A global player by any standard! As such, we need to tackle the "big problems". This bathroom situation shouldn't be on our radar, or if it is on our radar, handled in a better more efficient manner. We can't get wrapped around the axle over this or put the cart before the horse. Wow I am really on a roll with these wheel analogies.

night before last I listened to the public comment section as a Senate committee in TX considered SB6. They had started at 8 AM hearing called witnesses and then they went, mid-afternoon, to comments from the public - just 2-3 minutes each.

The adorned after 4 AM - THIRTEEN HOURS of which I heard something like 6-7 hours. In all that time I heard THREE individuals speak in favor of it (with boilerplate repetition of the same shit Tony Perkins had already said before lunch), and hundreds speak against it, with clear, heartfelt, personal experience, sound reasoning, and true Christian compassion.

Then the committee voted 8-1 to advance the bill anyway.

Apparently there's opposition to the bill in the House and I know that the big cities here are against it because of the revenue they'd lose, so I'm hoping they're able to kill it or severely cripple it.

The Lieutenant Governor is a complete moron who makes Ted Cruz look like a sane, rational person.

I was at a bar in Florida last week -- yes, Flori-duh of all places -- and they had the right idea. There were five separate bathrooms with locking doors and anyone could use them, regardless of gender, race, nationality, species, etc.

This also comes in handy if you like privacy when dropping the kids off at the pool.

He doesn't have kids. He's not married. His "my hot Latina wife" is a euphemism for "my hand". Weren't you over at Trekbbs when all that came out?

Seriously, if he is in person the way he is here, even the woman with the least self-esteem wouldn't go near him.

and don't even bother responding to this, TLS, you know I won't respond.

The German beer hall I like to go up here has the same thing, right down to the number of them, actually. I also recall a truck stop chain I stopped at on a road trip once that had fully enclosed stalls for the cans. I honestly think that's the way to go, and then it really wouldn't make a difference at least as far as restrooms.

I gathered. And had heard that the Speaker is strongly against it.

It fascinates me though that 4 of the 5 largest cities, making up hundreds of thousands of Texans, already have SOGIs and NONE of the predicted dire consequences have ensued, yet Patrick is still able to stamped the ignorant masses by lying to them about it.

It frankly a huge embarrassment that they managed to deceive 65% of Houston when all the HERO supports had to do was say "look at Dallas, Austin, San Antonio - where's the fallout?"

I saw a photo essay on a place that had a common area with sinks, mirrors, changing stations and so forth, and off that a dozen or so fully enclosed water closets with conventional locking doors and no "peek space" and it was not otherwise segregated.

My understanding is that most of Europe has unsegregated restrooms scattered all over and males and females regularly mingle and no one cares.

of course, all that would involve in many cases a lot of new construction (i.e. laws requiring all public toilets be fully enclosed" but if the folks who bitch about trans people were truly sincere in their safety concerns, they would be passionately demanding them.

But they aren't sincere, they are scapegoating same as they did with gays for 30 year or more, same as they did with "coloreds" before that.