will he spend one minute behind bars.........?

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  1. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    if he is indeed guilty? Considering in the past that records have been destroyed to protect priests (though not by him) and the catholic church in general has a history of "circling the wagons" and protecting their own - and this guy is in charge of their extremely ample money - color me skeptical of a fair, level trial.
    What say you word forge?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/28/asia/cardinal-pell-australia/index.html
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    A God that would smile down on the wickedness and madness of the Roman Catholic Church would be some kind of face eating demon from a horror movie.
    Don't mock their pope though.
    You're a bad guy if you mock their pope.
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  3. Dayton Kitchens

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    Yet I get criticized here for saying that Catholics are not real Christians.
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    You rightly get criticised because that's bullshit. Kiddy fiddling doesn't disqualify them.

    Anyway, if he's guilty one hopes that he dies behind bars.
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    You know that very few people "die behind bars" if they live out a natural life don't you?
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    He's 76.
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    Ok, I'll bite. And, I know this has nothing to do with the topic, but why are Catholics not real Christians?
  8. Dayton Kitchens

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    A vast number of the features and beliefs of Catholics are not in the New Testament.
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    God did give the Christians the plague of trump.
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    Such as?

    And, BTW, you do know that no matter what version of Christianity you practice, it's all based on Catholicism, right? As for what does or doesn't appear in the New Testament, the Catholics are the ones who determined what books go into the New Testament at the First Council of Nicene?
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    The position of pope for one. And before you claim that Peter was established as the first pope, the fact that Paul publicly rebuked Peter over the issue of Gentiles being forced to become Jews prior to becoming Christians shows this not to be true. If Peter was intended to serve as an earthly head of the church, Paul would never have disagreed with him. Much less publicly.

    And one would expect Catholics to claim they are the basis for all versions of Christianity whether it is true or not.
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    I'm not Catholic. I know history.

    Also, "If Peter was intended to serve as an earthly head of the church, Paul would never have disagreed with him. Much less publicly." Where on Earth do you get this? Are you suggesting Christ's followers were not human?
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    I'm saying that if the first century church acknowledged that Peter was its head (pope) then Paul would never have publicly disagreed with Peter. Probably simply accepted Peters position on Gentile converts and leave it at that
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    Why would you think that?
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    All of the beliefs espoused by Protestants are in the New Testament of course. :unsure:
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    Doesn't it stand to reason that if Paul accepted that Peter was pope, designated by Christ himself as the earthly head of his church that he would never have publicly disagreed with him?
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    Dayton doesn't understand irony, does he?
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    If you happen upon the truth even when trying to mock then my agreeing with you makes sense.
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    A Christian is one whose religion is based around Christ. The specific doctrines that one holds to are secondary. It is mere sectarianism that causes you to hold the view that you do.
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    Stand to reason? Is he human or not? If he's human, he is just as susceptible to ego, greed, power, whatever, as anyone alive today.
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    Assuming what Paul wrote was the inspired word of God (except for those parts that Paul says outright was his opinion such as his advice for a Christian not to marry to they can better focus on serving God) then I think it is reasonable to conclude the answer to your statement would be no.
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    @Jenee - This is a very deep, very confusing rabbit hole. Tread lightly considering the source. :lol:
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    I assume nothing.
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    You assume all Christian churches are derived from Catholicism.......
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    Do you know what happened at the First Council of Nicene?
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    Do you?
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    Yes. I do.
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    The Christian church had been around for centuries already.
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    I can think of a few eastern rites Christian groups which predate Catholicism but, yes, all the others are off shoots of Catholicism. Even the eastern Orthodoxed groups.

    Damn schizmatic Greeks.
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    prove it
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