Fuck the police: Don't call 911

Cue @Dinner.

 

Most modern handguns, especially the hamerless striker fired double action only kind, don't have physical safeties. Just FYI.

 

@Elwood, where the fuck have you been?

 

Livin' the dream, man. Little boys don't raise themselves.

 

Heard brotha, good to see you're ack.

 

Slight caveat here.......

While you're correct to say that if the finger is not on the trigger it won't fire there are circumstances where a foreign object can get in the trigger guard and press on the safety that is on the trigger and than press the trigger itself causing the gun to go off.

Just a FYI for the non-gun people on the board.

 

Guns almost never go off in holsters. We can never say they never do because I'm sure someone could dredge up an example of a gun in a holster still going off but for the most part once in the holster it's not going bang.

And most guns used by police do not have the type of safety you're talking about.

As for in the pants. That can happen quite easily if the gun is not in a holster but in your pocket. You go to take it out or it gets stuck on keys or something. It can happen.

That's why you don't carry in a pocket or waistband without something to cover the trigger.

Same with purses. We've seen this before on Wordforge. Lady was shot to death by her child by accident because her gun was in her purse and not secured in a holster.

 

I don't understand why they killed a white woman. Surely this will be an investigation priority?

 

It would be interesting to see what kind of holster the officer was wearing that points at an angle while sitting that points the weapon at an angle threatening anything other than the wearers leg.

 

But see, she was a hippie, so....

 

Easy. That was one of the first things I googled. Based on photographic evidence, MPD uses two types of holsters. Either the Safariland Model 070 or the Safariland Model 6360. Two of the best, safest holsters ever made.

 

Not to mention that unless it somehow ricocheted off the block (what caliber are they using?) he'd have to have his legs in his partners lap for a holstered pistol to somehow NG and strike a woman at the driver's window.

I don't know what the fuck happened, but I can't conceive of a situation where this fucker doesn't need to go make little rocks out of big rocks until he's old enough that he isn't a threat to solid food much less innocent civilians.

 

It makes me think of that Trooper in South Alabama that murdered a guy about 15 years ago.

If memory serves, the vehicle fit the description of a vehicle used in an armed robbery. Trooper approached the vehicle with his weapon drawn and poor trigger control. Something happened and the Trooper panicked and discharged an unaimed round. Unfortunately, that round went through the door post and head rest into the back of the guy's head. Turns out, it was just an innocent dude.

 

Noor was the first Somali-American officer at Minneapolis' 5th Precinct and was only on the force for two years.

Also there are conflicting stories out there about the driver. Some say he's an officer and some says he a community service officer (which means he's not a police officer).

There are also stories out there that say Noor fired multiple times across his partner and through the door to the victim. What an idiot.

 

Oh and I do not believe at this point he had the gun in the holster. He clearly fired it while it was pointed at her (and his partner in the drivers seat). Easily either or both of them could have been shot and killed. So my earlier statement about a negligent discharge has been over-ridden. I think he shot her on purpose because he got spooked.

And she had a cell phone so I can already see the defense plan being she had something in her hands and it looked like a gun.

 

Well, another shit storm's a-brewin' then.

 

I didn't know there was a White Lives Matter movement.

 

Moar liek 'White Lives Mattered' amirite

 

Well, incompetence is to be expect. What else can co e from affirmative action where superior candidates are passed over in order to socially promote inferior candidates due to racial quotas?

 

Something tells me no one will loot a liquor store or an electronics store over this.

 

Somali cop? Maybe he was having a flashback to when he was a pirate! I kid, I kid.....
regardless what Anc said - big rocks out of little rocks whether from malice or negligence, he is responsible.

 

It's called "what the legal system does unless you're swarthy".

Although, in this case we might wanna add "or a yoga chick".

But if we had a "Yoga Babes Lives Matter" movement I bet folk would pay more attention.

 

I'm reminded of more than one case where the police have shot or beaten the person who called them to begin with.

 

Same here. Though IIRC the cases like that I've heard of involved the police arriving and the caller running out toward the police screaming something.

I'm reminded of a case of firefighters being on strike and national guardsman were called in to pick up the slack. they responded to a call to get a ladies cat out of a tree. Unfortunately when they drove off they ran over the cat and killed it.

 

He must've had his weapon out, and in the process of re-holstering it, fired it. If he was seated in the passenger seat of the car, I don't see how it's possible for a shot from the holstered weapon to exit the driver's side door.

And if he fired past the driver through the driver's door, it's a small miracle the driver wasn't hit.

I take the "multiple shots" report with a grain of salt. How does that happen? The first shot is fired, the officer panics, grips the gun tightly, and fires again? Or something got hooked on the trigger and the recoil of the first shot caused the trigger to get pulled again?

(I remember hearing the story of a federal agent who had a habit of hanging his 1911 on a nail in the wall in his office. Once, he forgot to unload and put it on the nail, and accidentally engaged the trigger with the nail, firing the gun. The recoil caused the gun to rebound so that the trigger hit the nail and fired again. And again. And again. He bump-fired the whole magazine in the office. )

 

Or, you know, they're lying about this being an accidental discharge.

 

How could it be anything but? Who possibly would INTENTIONALLY fire their gun across the chest of the police officer in the drivers seat. At least that is what I heard on the news from a local lawyer apparently familiar with some aspects of the incident.

He also said there was a third police officer in the back seat who was reportedly shocked at the gun being discharged.

 

I really doubt the accidental discharge story as it is told because the facts don't fit that story. Unless he had his leg with the holster attached to it up in the air, pointed at the woman, any accidental discharge should have ended up in the firewall on the passenger side, after having grazed the leg of the officer wearing the holster.