So, When Exactly Do We Take Supremacists Seriously?

No, I am saying that the flag, slogan, and weaponry are an imminent threat, which made this a self-defense situation.

And has been explained to you multiple times.......

In America that is not an imminent threat that justifies any use of force in self defense. Just the fact those things are there is not a justification for using force and than claiming self defense.

None.

Zero.

You don't have to like it. I don't like it. Shooting Nazis should be 100% legal.

But the law doesn't work that way.

You are getting as tedious as Dayton3.

1. Your conclusion doesn't follow your premises.: if he believed that race and culture weren't divisible and that Persians were slaves by nature, breeding and upbringing, then that strongly implies a concept of xenophobia. Incidentally, I'd disagree with him as I've met truly exemplary Persians and I don't believe in slavery. I'm shocked that this led you to conclude that Aristotle wasn't extremely and violently racist toward Persians, because it sounds like he was.

2. Race is biological. That's why people take DNA tests in order to learn about their heritage.

Is there a trigger-warning emoji?

Someone could crop off the top and bottom and we could toss it in the smilies section.

You are confusing many different things here. Xenophobia, racism, bigotry, and for some reason, violence. Aristotle was deeply prejudiced against Persians. He was a bigot. He was not a xenophobe. And he was not violent. And the modern concept of race simply wasn't around at the time.

No. Plain false.

Are you a science denier? Are DNA tests "wrong?"

DNA tests are right and rightly show no trace of race as any kind of material reality. That laymen blindly assume the opposite in 2017 is probably the hardest empirical evidence that racism is deeply rooted in US culture. I could go on, but @matthunter can explain with greater professional authority and detail, so I will just call out to him here.

Biology is just inherited traits. You can keep claiming there are no inherited traits but you'd look even more foolish than now.

Dear Lord, I am obviously not claiming there are no inherited traits. I am saying there is no race among them.

The difference between the two has already been explained to you countless times. That you choose to ignore facts and logic in favour of clinging to your hatred of "leftists" is your own problem.

Is there a golden retreiver that can be identifiable as different from a great dane due to identifiable traits? They are both the same species but different breeds. In humans we call breeds races even though, obviously, all humans are the same species.

You are playing semantic games trying to deny objective reality but it just makes you look delusional. Now race is just a starting point and both culture and outlook matter more but claiming inherited traits do not exist is simply hog wash. That is all race means on common English usage so stuff that PC nonsense where the sun does not shine.

No, both of those statements and their equation are wrong. This has been explained to you several times, and you always mark those posts as TLDR and move on with your fallacy.

Except you are absolutely, positively, objectively, and provably wrong. I get that you want to pretend race does not exist but I find objective reality is always better in the long run. Much like climate deniers who want to pretend science does not exist; objective reality is always better in the end. Denialism doesn't help anyone and harms everyone who refuses to admit reality.

I can conclusively say I have not marked any posts on this subject TLDR. You obviously are continuing to be a delusional fuck stick who is at odds with reality. Put the crack pipe down and rejoin the rest of us in the real world.

You are talking completely out of your ass and are acting like a stark raving lunatic.

Genetically speaking, you can pull apart groups of humans using high-density marker analysis. You can argue that this means race is biological, and to some degree you'd have a point, but you can also separate white Europeans by country of origin:



Sorry for thumbnail, but the full version is huge. Anyway, any population that has had more breeding within itself than with others is gonna look more genetically similar. Given our history, that's gonna be the case for every population on the planet (possibly excepting the British - who I note they excluded from the above study - because we've been invaded by and integrated the Romans, the Vikings and the French... not to mention you could probably still pull apart the Welsh, Irish and Scots from the English if you use enough markers).

Bottom line, there's only about a 1% genetic difference between, say Europeans and Asians. If you look at the 0.01% or 0.1% levels, you can find markers that pull apart groups of Europeans. Just to put the race=breed argument to sleep though, my lab found a 3% difference between two types of sheepdog... but there are breeds of cattle that only differ by a single mutation (Red and Black Angus)... breed when referring to animals is a human construct, not a percentage of different genetics.

Genetically, it's interesting that you can tell human populations apart and there are medical benefits. As the basis for discrimination or social policy, it's fuck all.

Maybe Reverend Al Sharpton was right when so eloquently but disparagingly referred to the ancient philosophers & scientists as "those Greek homos" when discussing the subject of race.
Aristotle didn't know shit from Shinola if he thought that Persians make good slaves!
Here's a picture of a typical one - all they can do is clumsily scratch and paw at a cotton plant with no opposable thumbs! And their blinding speed is "all show & no go" if they can't carry heavy bushels of cotton around all day. Hell even the weak ones wouldn't cut it as a "house tigger" because they can't even empty their own litter box and the lazy bums tend to sleep half the day away if left to their own devices! And apparently the more attractive female Persians weren't useful for with the slave owners because I've only seen a handful of examples of their illicit offspring (second picture).

Dude, I already included you in dumber than every brown person so you can stop trying. Are you trying for the gold because trump is pretty stupid. Even you are going to have to work at......ok maybe you just need to try a little bit harder. I am sure stupid comes pretty naturally to someone like you.

Communist philosophy does not involve genocide as Nazi philosophy does. This is the problem with most of the attempts to pretend Nazis are like other groups. Other groups are not about eugenics and genocide. Genocide is a violent removal of every other group which is a threat to those being removed. Communism can include all types of people, and can exist with other economic communities.

Precisely. And that is why "I am a Nazi." is a direct threat, where "I am a Communist." isn't. You might be convinced that Communism leads to mass slaughter, but the person saying: "I'm a Communist." isn't trying to tell you that they want to commit murder. The Nazi is.

"Clear and present danger," is a description they might understand. Imminent lawless action is more current though.

I still think all people (Americans and foreigners) would be better off if they followed the "Grandfather Rule".

Grandfather Rule (summarized):

If it didn't effect my grandfather (or more recently) then it doesn't matter.

I'm not sure that rule gets any better if we fix the typo. Perhaps it would be wiser to take it as is: Only your great-grandparents, who effected your grandfather, matter. Were they nice people, I hope?

"Race", was invented by racists.
Skin color and nose shape are like eye color and hair color, nothing more.
Humans are humans.

A yellow cat and a brown cat are still just just cats.
A red lobster and a blue lobster are still just lobsters.

True, there are genetic switches for skin color, and eye color, etc, etc, but the barely literate pseudo-science quacks who made up racial groupings didn't understand that.
Hell, I don't think they knew about germs yet when terms like "caucasian", and "negroid", and "mongoloid", where pulled out of someone's ass.

Holy shit, this bullshit is woven so deep into the fabric of our culture, even my spell-checker is racist.
It demands I capitalize "caucasian", but not the others.
Fuck you, Google.

These ideas are deeply woven, and getting rid of them is like steering an iceberg, but we've got to change our perspective, because it's obsolete factually incorrect nonsense.
It's up there with flat Earth.

Oh, shit, Matthunter did it better.
That'll show me to read the whole thread first.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Grandfather rule

No need to take them seriously. Just cut off their supply of beef jerky and their favorite cushy brand of TP and they'll crawl back under their rocks.

No, they just routinely carried out genocide anyway despite their ideology to love everyone. In the end is it any different for the tens of millions Stalin killed or the tens of millions Mao killed or the millions killed in Cambodia?

As has been explained many times the founding tenant of Communism isn't ridding the world of Others via genocide. Nazism doesn't stand for anything *but* that.

But idiot kids wearing Che Guerra t-shirts they bought from Hot Topic while bitching about capitalism on their iPhone are in no way in the same league as idiot kids who take to 4chan to bitch about Googles and Skypes ruining America as a way to decry PCness.

Communism did not, does not nor ever will work in the Real World because of mission creep in best case scenario and because power hungry cunts will exploit the system at worst. There is no "best case scenario" for Nazism.