Should Gone with the Wind be banned?

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  1. Dinner

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    if you find the movie offensive - don't go see it. Problem solved!
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    That is my preferred approach.
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    Yes, it should be banned. Four hours is way too long to expect anyone to sit through a movie, let alone one whose heroine was the prototype on which Brooke Logan from The Bold and the Beautiful was based on.

    :bailey:

    I have my issues with GWTW, but the historical racism was one of the least cringeworthy aspects. Even a remake for modern sensibilities would have considerable issues.

    Plus, the actress who played Mammy was the first black actress to receive an Oscar for her performance, so that for me deserves acknowledgement.

    Overall, private business has the right to air or not air any movie they choose.
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    Yet the actress who played Mammy was not allowed to attend the Oscars - what kind of bullshit is that? Granted it could be a myth - can anyone verify the accuracy of this claim?
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    The movie actually toned down considerably some of the more racially offensive elements of the book, such as the glorification of the original KKK. Still, it is undoubtedly part of the "lost cause" narrative and the romanticization of the Confederacy. It's a mixed bag, because it is a good story with compelling characters, all of whom (the white ones anyway) are incredibly flawed people.
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    Posting in two different fuckin dinner threads in the same few days, god I feel slimy.

    ^Oldfella, the event was at a no-blacks hotel, but Hattie was allowed in as favor to one of the studio big-shots (I think it was Selznick), but she was shuffled off to a small table near the back and not allowed to sit at the GWTW table with most of the rest of nominees and muck a mucks.
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    I believe she got an Academy Award for best supporting actress. That was a first for any black actor/actress.
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    It is worth noting that until the 1980's it was the biggest grossing film of all time. That is doubly impressive because people only paid $0.05 -$0.10 to watch a movie in 1939. That is a lot of nickles and dimes.
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    You know you love it, bitch. You're just a dirty little girl like that. :itsokay::muad2:
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    Though it has been considered one of the five greatest movies ever made and my parents had an affection for it, I've never cared for it much.

    To me, to enjoy the movie you have to have at some point some sympathy for the character of Scarlett and I find her thoroughly repulsive.
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    Because of her evil girly parts? :unsure:
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    I was thinking more of her personality and attitude. Also I've never liked to see women (or men for that matter) obsessed with someone else like Scarlet is obsessed with Ashley.
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    @Anna that signature is unfair and takes out of context everything I said in that thread.
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    And no the film shouldn't be banned. If one doesn't want to see it than don't go see it. There should be context given with the film and the book but it shouldn't be banned.

    We can't ban our entire history just because there were very bad things that happened in the country.
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    No it shouldn't be banned, but I prefer the other 1939 classic "The Wizard of Oz".
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    No, it shouldn't be banned.

    Luckily, it hasn't been.

    Unless, of course, you want to declare that a film has been "banned" every time a given theater decides not to run it.
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    I thought the major criticism over the years about "Gone With the Wind" regarding race (other than a few uses of the 'n-word') were that the black slaves and former slaves were thought to have been depicted as stupid.

    "I don't know nothin bout birthin no babies" being a famous(in) example.

    From what I can remember when I saw it fairly recently (my wife and mom both love(ed) it and we keep it on the DVR) it shows the southern plantation aristocrats to be unremittingly arrogant and obnoxious
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    I hate both movies!
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    The black-characters are depicted sympathetically, as good-natured and loyal, but also played for comic relief in a few scenes. The white characters are indeed "repulsive," as you have said. Especially Scarlett.
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    Not exactly one of my favorite movies, but it's okay.

    I've never read the novel... is the movie majorly different or is it spot on?
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    About as close to a straight up movie adaptation of a long novel as you're ever likely to find from what I've heard.

    Some critics noted that more could've probably been left out of the movie (like much about Scarlett's meaningless marriages) and it would've been better.
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    That always seemed to me to be a "Fuck you, I ain't helpin' your ass" answer. Hattie absolutely would have known how to handle child birth, since slaves couldn't expect to be treated by a doctor under such circumstances. (And ironically, given medical practices at the time, this was probably safer for them.).
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    I thought it was the younger slave Prissy who uttered that line rather than the motherly Mammie (played by Hattie McDaniel, Academy Award winner).
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    Either way, a slave would absolutely know how to deal with childbirth. Either from helping when a fellow slave gave birth, or their mistress gave birth. Harriet Tubman, at the age of six, was taking care of the infants of white slave owners.
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    That's kind of a stereotype, isn't it?