thinking the media is way off on the details here.....

Campforge? The pictures of the "hunters" riding hobby-deer should be spoilered.

A Raven with the serial numbers scratched off.

I agree. At that distance you should be able to move slightly to get a better look at something you might not be sure about. That just wouldn't be done that way even with an idiot.

You are right, that 's a good way to get yourself shot.

.45-70 which is mucho powerful in rifle, less so in handgun, but apparently adequate at 200 yards with a handgun, or so the gun gurus here tell me.
Generally the whole idea of deer hunting with a handgun is getting very close versus far away. It's more of a challenge, thus most handgun hunters pride themselves on taking close shots. Regardless of the distance, shooting after legal shooting hours is FUBAR whether using a gun or bow of any type - because shit like this happens.

HA! You are correct! Even deer are smart enough to move their heads around to get different views on what they are looking at (triangulation) since they don't have depth perception/binocular vision. That's why they do the "head bob" when they think they spot a predator or anything suspicious. Then they might do the "foot stomp" to get you to make a fast movement, thus giving away your position. But this fucking HUMAN was too fucking stupid (despite superior vision) to do this. He's a disgrace to all hunters/sportsmen. Sorry but he should be charged with negligent manslaughter.

I agree that this guy was an idiot, but why are you trying to make such a huge deal about him hunting with a pistol?

hunting with a pistol is no problem! Taking a 200 yard shot with a pistol is not typical at least here in Georgia. Most hunters would question your ethics or hunting skills if you try a 200 yard pistol shot on a deer. Notice I said "hunting skills" not "shooting skills" because there is a difference as every hunter knows. This clown was no hunter, not by a long shot (no pun intended).

No, most hunters would not question a 200 yard shot with a specialized hunting pistol. 200 yards is practically point blank with glass whether it's on a pistol or a rifle. Sight radius goes out the window.

really? It's not a typical way to hunt regardless of optics. Yes there are a small percentage of hunters who would hunt like this, but it's far from normal. In other words run the stats in your state (if they are that detailed) and find the percentage of hunters who harvest deer with handguns. Then run the stats on yardage for the shot. Any guesses that 200 yard pistol shots are not a big slice of the pie chart? If I'm wrong I stand corrected. Fair enough?

Neither is bow hunting.

Here's a 926 yard shot.

Either way, I'm not trying to say that long range pistol hunting is typical. I was addressing your claim that was unethical.

It might be ethical but hard to crunch that data since a youtube search is pretty empty on 200 yard handgun pistol deer kill videos.
Yet not hard to crunch on bow deer kills. So while (in theory) 200 yard handgun shots deliver a quick death on deer, not many people have tried it, or if they did there sure aren't any videos about it. Why is that? Because good luck finding hunters who have actually killed a mature white tailed deer with a handgun of any caliber at 200 yards. Rifle 200 yard shots on deer are no big deal. Again, submit your video proof. I would honestly like to see these videos, because it would be pretty kick-ass. Maybe I'm not you tubing correctly.

Well okay then.

Again, I haven't said that it's typical. Also, I showed you a video of just shy of a 1000 yard kill shot. I'm not sure what else you're angling at.

Pistol, rifle, this dumbass either took a shot without confirming the target or shot the person on purpose. Now, stop pissing into each other's mouths over semantics.

I've already acknowledged that.

What semantics? The difference between "typical" and "ethical"?

They are overlooking something

1,000 yard kill shot with a pistol on a deer? Maybe I got that video mixed up. Link it again please.
YES! I found it, the antelope shot. Well it's very impressive - it can be done with a specialty pistol by an expert under ideal shooting conditions. I'm saying the average (ethical, safe) hunter armed with a handgun would have no business attempting even a 200 yard shot. Granted this clown who shot the woman should be riding the short bus, because he is a special kind of dangerous. If he was using a scope (how else could you make a 200 yard pistol shot?) the there is no way he would not have seen it was not a deer. Not many deer have dog friends. HA! Dude was trying to hit the dog, which he thought was a deer.
After dark he might have noticed another shape (the woman) which he figured was also a deer. The scope gave him enough light to see the general deer shape (the dog) and he fired, missing of course & hitting the woman. OR MAYBE he saw two shapes that he figured were deer and took a "hail mary" shot and hit one - being the woman.

But my original statement stands - since only a small percentage of handgun deer hunters take long (over 100 yard) shots with the vast, vast majority being under 50 yards it would be assumed by nearly anyone who hunts (not shoots paper, but hunts) that the media got the distance wrong. I just don't see many long range deer handgun videos out there - and a lot of people film their own hunts.

In all fairness to oldfella, the topography down here is vastly different from where this happened. 150 yards would be an exceptionally long shot for any practical hunting situation within 100 air miles of where I'm sitting right now. Usually, my shots are no more 75-80 yards when hunting a cut-over, which is why I use a .45-70. The efficiency of that rounds drops off fast, but at those sorts of ranges, it's most certainly going to get the job done.

So any straight answers on what the gun was?

You keep moving the goalposts. Yes, I was talking about specialized long range hunting pistols used by experienced hunters. I even said as much. I never said some yahoo had any business taking a 200 yard shot with an off the shelf Glock 19.

Your original statement falls flat on it's face.

"Nobody.....not one fucking hunter AKA "nobody" would take a 200 yard pistol shot at a deer. Never happened before in the history of deer hunting, ever. Not from the most powerful handgun known to man, shooting off a sandbag for maximum accuracy.
Not one pistol round made will carry enough energy at 200 yards to humanely kill a deer - full stop. "

That is bullshit.

Jesus, OldFella really has a hard on for this topic.

I bet he shot someone with an arrow by mistake, buried the body, and is now having PTSD flashbacks because of this topic. He's real defensive about long range shots.

I saw a satellite pic in one new source that showed farms and open fields where the woman was killed. From the hunting perspective, it's "late season" and many soft mast food sources are long gone, so deer will be out in the open around sunset (being crepuscular wherever deer reside) eating whatever forbs and unharvested crops they can find. In this situation you might have some longish shot opportunities - in which case you would be using a rifle, not a pistol. You plan your hunt around the weapon (and it's limitations) you will be using and the terrain that would support your strategy. If you will be using a handgun, you set up your ambush (or still hunting or "spot & stalk") around specific limitations. Nobody uses a handgun for open field long range shooting unless they own the property or have otherwise reconned the property and have patterned the deer. If they chose a long shot for a pistol they are an idiot. If all I had was a pistol to hunt with on this particular property I would find a narrow funnel leading from bedding areas to the food source. Every deer hunter has access to maps & photos
to plan their hunt. Also they have on-line sources that show who owns every bit of property, another tool for planning your strategy/hunt. Just sayin'

Exactly.

In your dreams! It's just that I hunt, and I know a lot of people who do hunt with various weapons, and a 200 yard pistol shot on a deer is not something that 99 percent of sane, responsible hunters would attempt under normal hunting conditions. Shooting a target and shooting a deer are two separate things. Given enough time & practice for such a shot it can be done - I saw the 900+ yard pistol antelope shot - it's impressive!

No, I will never shoot someone by mistake with any weapon, especially a bow. I am super picky on my bow shots. Don't like the distance AKA seems too far? I let it walk. The angle isn't right (not broadside or slightly quartering away) I let it walk. Body language says deer is "alert" to my possible presence? I let it walk. Doe has a fawn with it? I let her walk, because fawns are curious and sneak up near you undetected and will alert the mom. BTW after mid-September ( when bow season opens in Georgia) fawns can survive on their own just fine if the mom is killed. Some female fawns just hang around with mom until they are old enough to get pregnant, and it's not uncommon to have three or four generations of does in one big herd - safety in numbers, and experience in staying alive means older does keep the group safer.

If you're not killing deer with your family bat'leth, you are no hunter. A true hunter looks his prey in the eyes as the life is taken.

yes, I was wrong - hunters do take 200 yard pistol shots on deer. But only a tiny fraction of hunters would do this. If you can show me a few examples of hunters harvesting deer at 200 yards with a handgun, please share them. For example Georgia has about 400,000 deer harvested annually. Deduct 50,000 for bows, and we would have 350,000 killed via firearms. How many of these are 200 yard handgun harvests? Just askin'

I don't know what a bat'leth is, but I do love hunting with a bow eye-to-eye with deer at ground level.

According to this article, 150 yards is considered "moderate" range for deer hunting...and that's not considering highly specialized bolt action single shot set ups. He's talking about scoped Blackhawks, N frames and even 1911s.

He's just having a bad reaction to finding out he doesn't know as much about hunting as he thought he did.