Do Sanctuary Cities Really Encourage Immigrant Communities To Cooperate With Local Police?

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    A key defense of the idea of sanctuary cities has been that it helps fight crime because local immigrant communities (specially illegal immigrants) are more willing to cooperate with local law enforcement because they won't fear local authorities will report them for possible deportation.

    This is the claim.

    But is their any evidence to back it up? From what I've observed, local law enforcement seldom takes any actions against people who assist them anyway. From what I've read and observed (though the largest place I've lived in myself had only 90,000 people) local law enforcement officials are quite willing to tolerate a wide range of illegalities such as drug dealing if the criminals assist them in keeping down violent crime.
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    When Sessions first mentioned wanting to end this, lots of police chiefs from those cities spoke out saying it made a big difference in cooperation. I'm sure you could Google it.
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    Um....

    ...no.
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    You mean there is no evidence that sanctuary cities encourage immigrant communities to cooperate with local law enforcement?
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    Has it occurred to you that lots of people don't want to spend any time more than necessary using the internet?
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    Because you might learn something?

    Tell us again how many message boards you post on. :bailey:
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So how does that jibe with "not wanting to spend any time more than necessary using the Internet"?
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    I want to spend time talking and seeing what I've written.

    Not doing research that some clown can do easier who has a better computer than me. You've known about my aversion to posting links for literally years haven't you?
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So research and the desire to learn are the bailiwick of "clowns." Who knew?
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    My theory that Dayton isn't accustomed to his opinions being challenged IRL grows stronger and stronger. :yes:
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    Because you're surrounded by dumb people who actually make you look intelligent?
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    I have seen several elected officials claim they feared less cooperation but you generally get no meaningful cooperation out of illegals anyway. Remember these are people who run for election making these claims.

    Asking for real data instead of politically motivated claims should be the first thing done and yet, mysteriously, it doesn't seem to have been academically studied. Just lots of talk about fears without supporting data.
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    Given your second paragraph, you have no way of proving your opinion.
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    You mean aside from the law enforcement professionals who say in their experience it helps a lot?


    So what you are saying is that you and your mail order bachelor's degree have figured out that the police who actually work with these people, unlike you who sits there with his thumb up his ass, are wrong and sanctuary cities do nothing. Well go you! It is just awesome how the supposed history teacher who is Christian but does not know anything about the history of Jews and Jesus because his "college" education did not include those things, has totally cracked this sham perpetrated by the real police.

    Take your little paper degree and shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about and are incapable of learning about. The world does not need the thoughts of your simple minded ass.
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    Don't be ridiculous. I attended college fully three years to obtain my B.S.B.A. Lived in a dorm and everything.
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    My point exactly.
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    So your response to me is an unprovoked insult of my state?
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    It's more of an insult of you, but whatever you prefer, coach.
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    Strange, you say that but you didn't use my name. At any rate why would you wish to insult me? Especially without provocation.
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    Dude, no you didn't. You aren't a teacher either. You don't just pass a licensing test and have a bachelor's in business administration and teach kids. Maybe you do something in a school, but you are not a teacher. There are other things you do. I got teachers in the family. As for your bachelor's, I know a fucking paper degree when I see one. I thought people around here had actually looked you up and found out things about you. No one did that. You are full of shit. You are a huge fucking liar. I bet your foot didn't even rot off.

    I should have fucking known people had not looked your shit up. I just trusted that something big actually happened and people knew about you, but no dude. Who the fuck do you think you are talking to? Other people may not know, or probably even care, but you are not a teacher. A lot of what you claim is a complete fabrication. I have seen this shit before, and I must have lost my mind to think chup or someone else actually verified anything about what you claim. I am not interested in figuring out what specific loser you are so don't worry. However, your bullshit is now obvious to me.
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