Some of the books I've read.

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  1. spot261

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    Ok, I've not read the thread because we all know what it will consist of.

    I'm going to suggest to you a deal, in genuine good faith and a hope we can all learn a little something from each other.

    I'm off work sick at the moment, hence the inordinate amount of posting I'm doing to help fill the time in between children, gardening and various agricultural projects. I'd appreciate going out of the box so to speak and think it would be interesting to be exposed to something out of my comfort zone. Also, I'm sensing a very definite theme and bias in your book selection.

    So here's what I propose, can you recommend something to me that would be an insight into your preferred historical/political material? Something I can pick up from a bookstore early next week?

    In return I suggest you try reading some Noam Chomsky (from the political angle, not the linguistic - although he's something of a hero of mine on both scores). Hegemony or Survival is an interesting one and I suspect you'd be quite uncomfortable reading it but if you give it a fair chance come away with a few of your certainties in question
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    Game of thrones. dwarf porn
    lotro
    dune
    gun, germs ands steal
    C++ programing.
    Book in modern African literature class I had about an actual guy who was a Kenyan diplomat and his brother was a revolutionary before that stuff happen can't remember the name of book.
    Book that was another mali type alexander the great type folklore.
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    You know, @Tuckerfan tried something like that already. Not with Chomsky but with biblical history. He even bought Dayton the book. He claimed to read it, but his subsequent review was shallow to say the least.
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  4. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    What was the book?
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    "Bible Myths and Their Parallels In Other Religions" by T.W. Doane

    See here for his review. I'm not convinced that he did anything other than skim it.
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    Well, this worked out well for Dayton.
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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    @shootER, here's another book Dayton "read".

    space station book.jpg

    Vast knowledge indeed. Next time Dayton claims knowledge about a subject, here's some of his reference material.
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    ...But enough about your dietary habits and bowel movements. :yuck:
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    I was wondering, is that Praxis 1 or 2?

    Because the (former) level 1 doesn't really look like much more than a basic skills assessment.
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    Here's one @Dayton3 should enjoy:

    10A45072-CA11-4ECB-AE9C-A2B0B71A3C8F.jpeg
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  11. Dayton Kitchens

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    When I refer to my Praxis scores I refer to the Praxis II which are specifically related to the subject material a teacher is obtaining certification in.
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    Those do all appear to be picture books. :chris:
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  14. Dayton Kitchens

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    Indeed they are. They focus on transport of extremely large payloads over European roadways. I find the transport sector of economies to be extremely interesting.
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    Then to include four of them on short a list of books you've "read", from among what is supposedly thousands, is bizarre.

    EDIT: And there are at least a few other picture books listed there too.
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  16. Dayton Kitchens

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    Super Duty Earthmovers by Eric Orlemann might qualify as that though it has a good deal of information about the advance of technology in extremely large construction vehicles. But that is the only other one in this list.
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    Really?

    Cold War at Sea: An Illustrated History?
    Cold War: An Illustrated History, 1945-1989?
    Palgrave Concise Historical Atlas of the Cold War?

    :lol:
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  18. Dayton Kitchens

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    So you are saying that ANY book with pictures is a "picture book"?

    That means almost all the hardback books published in the last century.

    Hell, my grandfathers high school history book published in 1892 has a number of illustrations (they didn't have the technology to recreate actual pictures, they look like woodcuts. )

    Not to mention Atlas's have a number of maps and charts. Are you seriously going to classify them as picture books?
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    :rofl:
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    You're still talking about reference books. Those can be very interesting to look at, but reading one of them won't make you an expert in the subject it covers, any more than memorizing a list of events and dates gives you a "vast knowledge" of history.
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  21. Dayton Kitchens

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    Serious question: How then would you obtain a "vast knowledge of history"?
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    The only Praxis I know about blew up.....
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  23. Dayton Kitchens

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    I'm pretty sure the Praxis test series has been around longer than Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praxis_test
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    The word "vast" suggests a comprehensive knowledge of all aspects of history, something hardly humanly possible. The vaster the knowledge, the more superficial. This is why historians specialize in one particular area. If you earned a PhD from one of these universities with a concentration in Cold War history, I would have no choice but to consider you an expert in that field.

    https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/history-rankings
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  25. Dayton Kitchens

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    Then obviously I exaggerated. I apologize.
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  26. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Probably, but given that I'm not an American I just had to google what it was to be sure.

    ST VI was more entertaining to be fair....
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    Obviously that's not attainable for most people with an interest in history. But perhaps scholarly books and articles written by such esteemed experts would be a good resource for those who wish to increase their own knowledge? Just a suggestion.
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    digging deeper...
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    Controversies and debates about teacher quality[edit]
    According to NCLB, a highly qualified teacher must have "1) a bachelor's degree, 2) full state certification or licensure, and 3) prove that they know each subject they teach." Beyond that, NCLB does not define its terminology, and it leaves requirements up the states. States are allowed the liberty to determine how teachers can prove their content knowledge. Many states have chosen to approach this issue with standardized content exams. However, the exams, themselves, are not standardized. This means that "qualification" has a different meaning in each state. A teacher who may be deemed "highly qualified" by Alabama standards, may not be deemed "highly qualified" by California standards. Some scholars point out that "from a practical standpoint, interstate differences in what it meant to be certified provided the federal government with few assurances that, across the board, the nations' teachers were qualified to teach". There is also widespread disagreement about what it means to be a highly qualified teacher.

    According to the National Commission on Teaching and America's future, HQTs should "graduate from accredited institutions, pass licensing examinations that include both content and performance components, and be certified when they obtain advanced levels of competence". While others point out that standardized test scores and prestigious degrees neither effectively prepare HQTs for the classroom nor capture the qualities necessary to be an effective teacher.

    Where states are today[edit]
    Ultimately, while the Department of Education may state 97% coverage of HQTs in core content classrooms, the true meaning of "qualified" remains vague and transient.
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    So the obvious question-Is Dayton an HQT and if so, why has he never boasted about it?
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  29. Dayton Kitchens

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    I've claimed Highly Qualified Teacher status in the past based on my Praxis II Content Knowledge score (198/200).

    I don't know off hand if that status was granted though.
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    It wasn't.