2020 Presidential Primaries

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  1. Zombie

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    But it would be more truthful. Hate the man for his policies and claim he's deliberately malign and/or uniquely terrible. That's fine.

    Assigning medical conditions to him because you hate him? Stupid. And actually plays right into his hands. (not you but others in the media who play that card)
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    This is a lie.

    Biden's team won't let him give long speeches. They are also blocking him from doing long interviews because every time he does an interview he's making mistakes.

    He's not the same for years. You can see a clear decline with Biden over the last few years. 2020 Biden is not the same as 2016 Biden.
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    You think it's fine because it absolves the rest of the system of its advanced state of decay. Fuck that.
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  4. Amaris

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    It's not propaganda when it's true. I don't want Joe Biden for president. That said, he's still a human being and, I wouldn't say it unless I actually believed it, his mental acuity has dulled considerably. This isn't a stuttering problem from his youth. You can believe he's fine, and the DNC will work their asses off to make him look competent, but no, I've been watching and listening. as @Zombie mentions, his speeches are running about 7 minutes. Bernie, meanwhile, is doing hour long Q&A rallies. This next debate, they're having both men seated. Why? Bernie certainly has never shown any sign of a lack of energy when on the debate stage.

    Regardless of what the mainstream Democratic establishment (that's the corporations and the political machine, by the way) tries to tell me, I believe my lying eyes and ears. Joe Biden isn't the mentally capable man he once was.

    Oh, and honestly? This isn't some Russian conspiracy, this is the Democratic party's chickens coming home to roost.
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  5. Quincunx

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    Hillary's Health 2.0. Is it going to be Parkinson's again, or some other secret diagnosis? :dayton:
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    "This next debate, they're having both men seated. Why? Bernie certainly has never shown any sign of a lack of energy when on the debate stage."

    This change was done for Biden though his campaign denies it. Sitting down is more restful than standing.

    Also changed was that they would be taking questions from audience members. Past debates were done by moderators. You don't spar as much with the other candidate in this type of debate.
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  7. Zombie

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    This situation with Biden is outright in the clear. It can't be hidden because it makes it presence known every time he speaks.

    You can't tell me that if Joe Biden wasn't running for President that you wouldn't say that the guy is mentally losing it.

    If Joe wins the nomination the Democrats are running a guy whose mentally declining against a bull-in-a-China-shop guy. How do you actually expect Joe to win POTUS?
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  8. Quincunx

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    You really expect to be able to recycle the Hillary 2016 playbook against Joe Biden? As the saying goes, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
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  10. Asyncritus

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    To be perfectly honest, no matter which of the Democrat candidates wins the nomination, I (and millions of others) will be looking very closely at the V.P. choice, because that choice could well become president -- maybe even become president-elect before January 20th.
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    :shrug:

    You guys are fooling yourselves.

    Like I said if you all want to put Joe Biden up against Trump than do it. It just benefits Trump in the end.

    [​IMG]
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  12. Amaris

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    No. I didn’t believe the sick Hillary maneuver in 2016 because there wasn’t the slightest hint of her being in anything other than good health. You’ll recall I was for Bernie then, too.

    Joe Biden has cognitive issues. How severe they are isn’t known, but the changes the DNC has been making to accommodate them should at least give one pause. He had an exam, and every test was completed except the cognitive function test. This was excused as him being in the campaign trail and thus issues of cognition would show up.

    I kid you not: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/03/06/the-disinformation-campaign-being-launched-against-biden/
    I’ll say it again: if Joe Biden is the nominee, he will lose. All you really need is a strong, capable speaker with defined ideas to be competitive, and Joe Biden can’t even deliver on that.
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    Also take note:
    Lots of the media and Biden’s primary opponents just a few months ago when Joe’s campaign looked like it was in the toilet had absolutely no problem bringing up his mental fitness and decline. No problem bringing up his mental gaffes. And they certainly didn’t attribute it to his stutter.
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  14. Quincunx

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    You just linked to an article which explains in detail how there is "no data to support the allegation that [Biden] is in cognitive decline," and describes insinuations that he is as a "disinformation campaign." :unsure:

    So, uh, everybody should read that. :techman:
  15. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    ^Also there are no clips of Biden's "stutter" from the 70s, 80s or 90s. At least none that I've ever seen. Possibly not even from the '00s.
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    Except for the relevant part I quoted about them foregoing the cognitive test, but please, back this guy, he’s fine.
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    But there’s ample clips of him saying incredibly stupid things and chewing his own feet from that time.
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  18. Quincunx

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    And? You think auto workers can't handle a little salty language? Besides, Joe needs to be forceful about his support for second amendment rights, since that's another lie the other side is going to try smearing him with.
  19. Amaris

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    He told the black woman, his aide, next to him to shush when she started to speak up. He put his finger in the man’s face, and when the man told him to remove it, Biden threatened to slap him.

    He is going to lose so fucking hard.
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  20. Paladin

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    Did you miss the part where Joe made Beto "Hell, yes, I'm coming for your AR-15" O'Rourke his point man on gun control?

    If it's a lie that Joe is against the 2nd Amendment, tell me: what's the strongest stand he's ever taken to protect gun rights?
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  21. Amaris

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    Here's the text from CBS:

    Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-...nd-2nd-amendment-responds-youre-full-of-shit/

    "I'm not working for you."
    Biden 2020
  22. Steal Your Face

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    I’d like to know what an AR-14 is?
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    Mass confiscation is unconstitutional, full stop. It's a pipe dream, a complete non starter.

    Probably his vote in favor of the 1986 Firearm Owners' Protection Act, which the NRA called "the law that saved gun rights."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...hen-senate-nation-were-very-different-n997311
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  24. Paladin

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    I've decided, in the interest of public safety, to surrender my AR-14s to the police. :cry:
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    Here’s a video with better audio.
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  27. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Biden's comment was stupid, but let's be honest: gun nuts aren't exactly turning out in droves to vote for the Democratic candidate.
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    I’d say the more damning comment is saying he doesn’t work for us. It makes him sound like an elitist. People are sick of elitists. If I were Trump, I’d ask him who he works for and I’d imply it’s lobbyists. Then I’d say that I work for the people.
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  30. Amaris

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    This, and it's why Joe Biden is prone to losing hard. Yeah, Trump says the quiet part loud all of the time, but it slides off of him. Joe Biden doesn't have that same Teflon tuxedo.
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