2020 Presidential Primaries

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  1. Amaris

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    This seems like a no-no:


    As far as I know, that's very much illegal.
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  2. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Quoting from Wikipedia:

    Running those numbers, it gives a fatality rate with a low end of 0.02% up to a high of 0.08%. This is orders of magnitude more dangerous.
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  4. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    What's up is that the average American doesn't realize that your garden-variety annual flu kills tens of thousands in the U.S. every single year. The bug mutates every year (sometimes there are two strains running simultaneously), but the amazing thing is - you can get a flu shot every year! Can't walk past a chain pharmacy without seeing that big old sign. The cost if you're uninsured is around $40, and unless you're immunocompromised, there is no reason not to get the shot. Unless you want to risk lying in bed with fever and aches 'n' shakes for a week, missing work, infecting your family, etc.

    There is no vaccine for COVID-19. Let me repeat that: THERE IS NO VACCINE FOR COVID-19. It's a bug no one's seen before. There probably won't be a vaccine for another 12-18 months at the most optimistic. And the damn thing spreads exponentially days before the victim shows any symptoms.

    That's what's up with that.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    I could not have thought up a better campaign slogan! :techman: Trump will be gone, adults will be in charge again, and everything will get back to normal. :enty:
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  7. oldfella1962

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    nonetheless the odds of any one individual (myself, yourself, your neighbor down the street) getting coronavirus are slim. Taken further, the odds of any of those infected people actually dying from the virus are slim too. Washing your hands and wiping down likely places where the virus might live for a while are the best defense. Other than these reasonable precautions I'm not doing anything special.
    I'll still eat in restaurants, go to movie theaters, go to the gym, etc etc until these places are shut down. I don't have the option of working from home, and my company has no plans to make people stay home.
    If you want to self quarantine I guess you eat vacation time! :shrug:
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    that's adorable! Kids say the cutest things.
  9. Amaris

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    #MAGA but for liberals.
    Keep caging those kids.

    You don’t give a shit about policy, just appearances of normalcy. You’re moderate Republicans with blue hats. Enjoy losing to Trump. We’ll pay for it while you’ll have to come up with pithy sayings for next time, though, for when you run another moderate who stands for nothing but keeping corporations in power. Who knows? Maybe next time Trump breaks a constitutional law, Nancy will give him rabbit ears. Must be nice to have no principles when the price is right.
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    What's your source on that?
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    Please get your head screwed on straight.

    Quest isn't a moderate Republican with a blue hat.

    No wonder you're so fucked up. You must think that there's only 5 leftists in the country and you're one of the 5.
  12. Amaris

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    You think Bill DeBlasio's a communist. Why the hell are you stating your opinion like it's based in any kind of reality?
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    His ass. Both cheeks.

    Oldfella the odds are very good that you will get it.

    If the odds were very slim the country and the world wouldn't be running around emptying store shelves and shutting down everything.
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    FTFY.
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    Visited the Soviet Union in 1983.

    Ardent supporter of the communist revolutionaries in Nicaragua, raised funds for the Sandinistas and was a subscriber to the party’s newspaper, “Barricada” (The Barricade).

    Traveled to Nicaragua in 1988 and became active in the Nicaragua Solidarity Network of Greater New York as soon as he returned to the U.S.

    This is what he said in New York Magazine: "What’s been hardest is the way our legal system is structured to favor private property. Look, if I had my druthers, the city government would determine every single plot of land, how development would proceed. And there would be very stringent requirements around income levels and rents. That’s a world I’d love to see, and I think what we have, in this city at least, are people who would love to have the New Deal back, on one level. They’d love to have a very, very powerful government, including a federal government, involved in directly addressing their day-to-day reality."

    Sounds like communism to me.
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    You sound like a fascist to me.
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  18. Amaris

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    This. If one calls someone who fights imperialism a "communist," then one is most likely a fascist, or at least an imperialist themselves.
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    ^The Rightest agenda distilled down to its essence.

    @MikeH92467, @Amaris, how many more posts before @Zombie trots out the old "Nazis were socialists because they had 'socialist' in their party name" song and dance?
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  20. Zombie

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    Hey the man hung out with communists. He supported communists. He was proud of it.

    The problem isn't him.

    It's you.

    Your definitions are so warped that you label everyone wrong. Bill De Blasio is not center anything. Neither is @Quest a moderate Republican wearing a blue hat.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Professional viewpoint, @Zombie: Some governors are releasing non-violent criminals to reduce the prison population in the hope of cutting down the risk of spreading COVID-19 in such a crowded environment.

    Opinion?
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    You're assuming I care about dead Americans.
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    I expected it. In a virus situation the government doesn’t want to waste resources on inmates, jails, and courts. Eventually it would release people and only keep the serious cases.

    It’s not a big deal to me. It really doesn’t make sense to hold someone for something small.

    I’ve also read where some states are going to not prosecute people already on the system. Non-violent of course. Or better put non-serious crimes. You can do a non-violent but serious crime and still get locked up. But if you’re doing something simple like trespassing they are going to drop the case.
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    Fundamental change is a tough sell to voters even during the best of times. During the middle of a global pandemic? No way. People will be seeking comfort and continuity. Normally that would favor the incumbent, but those are qualities he simply can't offer.
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  25. Amaris

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    That doesn't excuse anything. Tom Perez and Joe Biden's campaign told people it was okay to go vote, against CDC guidelines and restrictions, without moving the primaries back (or finding a much better solution) which put a hell of a lot of people in danger, and the resulting clusterfuck managed to give Biden what he needed. So win/win for the DNC.

    Modern Democrats have no spine, nor moral compunction, if they're willing to vote to "return to normalcy" despite seeing where that path lead the last time. You think that's going to go away if Biden is the President? No. The GOP will find someone like Trump, but less incompetent. Then the Democrats will run to that center, and we'll just slowly lose everything. They didn't even try with Bernie. From the start they were going to choose a "moderate" Democrat because they have corporate connections to maintain, and party loyalists will go along with it because BeRnIe IsN't EvEn A dEmoCrAt!

    Then again, Biden could get the nomination, Trump could run to his left on some policies, stomp the ever loving shit out of Biden, and we could get nationalism instead of Democratic socialism.
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    Looks like lawsuits might be coming.

    Telling people to stay home and distance but than holding a primary vote.

    I don’t think it would have changed anything but people are still going to cry foul. Especially Bernie Bro’s.

    Edit: I wrote this post without reading Amaris post above. So I think this might hurt the Democrats.

    There are already people going “never Biden” and this primary might make those calls louder.

    Also I think Bernie is weighing whether or not to stay in on the hopes that Biden has a moment where it’s super clear he can’t be the nominee. Staying in gives Bernie the claim to be next in line to try and prevent the DNC from saying, “you dropped out so we can nominate anyone.”

    Of course even if he stays in and Biden drops the DNC would still steal the nomination.
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    math! :shrug: Granted we'll have to wait for the dust to settle but with (rounded off) 300 million in the US and if 3 million get infected that's a 1 percent chance of getting infected. If even 1 percent of the infected die that's 30,000 dead.
    That's about how many Americans die ANNUALLY from car crashes. So should we all stop driving? I rest my case.
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    Yet Trump will still get elected! Sorry you aren't feeling the comfort & continuity. Another four years and you might though! :)
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    Ridiculous conclusion based on a ridiculous assumption. What in the world makes you think no more than 3 million people in the US will be infected? The number of people who get the flu every year are way higher than that, and Covid-19 has a much higher infection rate than the flu.

    And that 1% mortality rate is still a guess. A lot the factors indicate it might be much higher.

    This is a clear case of "Garbage in, garbage out". You started with ridiculous information, so your conclusion is worthless. I suggest you be much more careful than your calculations indicate, because they are totally worthless.
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    Thank you Dayton. Case closed.
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