Trumpite Americans, when will you finally acknowledge your leader is a joke?

Bailey · Jun 18, 2020

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This seems too horrible to be real, but I haven't been able to debunk it. Can someone explain it? Is there some other established meaning for a red triangle pointing downwards in the US that I don’t know about?

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It's real: https://www.facebook.com/1771156219840594/posts/2674044392885101/?d=n

Bailey · Jun 18, 2020

Also put out from Pence's official account: https://t.co/KQ7KfApk5w?amp=1

I can't even figure out any potential legit reason for putting that image in there other than the obvious.

Bailey · Jun 18, 2020

Same ad was run with 6 different images, 5 stock clipart looking ones and this. Seems like a really crude attempt to go "oh no they were just symbols"? Scrolling through the ads history in that link you can see that no previous ads before this one used symbols like it, and the style of that triangle doesn't match the styling of the others, like they were just added as cover.

Ten Lubak · Jun 18, 2020

Sorry what does an upside down red triangle mean?

Ten Lubak · Jun 18, 2020

Oh wow, looked it up - Nazis!

jeez

Tuckerfan · Jun 18, 2020

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Sorry what does an upside down red triangle mean?
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If you were sent to the concentration camps for being a dissenter you were made to wear a red triangle.

Tuckerfan · Jun 18, 2020

K. · Jun 18, 2020

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Ten Lubak said: ↑

Sorry what does an upside down red triangle mean?
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If you were sent to the concentration camps for being a dissenter you were made to wear a red triangle.
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Yes. More generally, it was the symbol the Nazis used for political opposition, including democrats, socialists, communists, antifa, and religious groups that didn't support the regime.

Which is why I'm asking if a red triangle pointing downwards means something else in the US, because I still have trouble accepting that Trump blatantly used a symbol that meant nothing to anyone who didn't use Nazi symbolism.

Tuckerfan · Jun 18, 2020

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The Night Funky said: ↑

Ten Lubak said: ↑

Sorry what does an upside down red triangle mean?
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If you were sent to the concentration camps for being a dissenter you were made to wear a red triangle.
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Yes. More generally, it was the symbol the Nazis used for political opposition, including democrats, socialists, communists, antifa, and religious groups that didn't support the regime.

Which is why I'm asking if a red triangle pointing downwards means something else in the US, because I still have trouble accepting that Trump blatantly used a symbol that meant nothing to anyone who didn't use Nazi symbolism.
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I’d never heard of it until now.

spot261 · Jun 18, 2020

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Trump's niece is releasing a tell-all book that will air a lot of Trump family dirty laundry:

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/mary-trump-why-presidents-niece-013827860.html
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On a related note

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Can I marry her?

Tererune · Jun 18, 2020

Bailey said: ↑

Also put out from Pence's official account: https://t.co/KQ7KfApk5w?amp=1

I can't even figure out any potential legit reason for putting that image in there other than the obvious.
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Triforce?

Tererune · Jun 18, 2020

spot261 said: ↑

The Night Funky said: ↑

We Are Borg said: ↑

Trump's niece is releasing a tell-all book that will air a lot of Trump family dirty laundry:

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/mary-trump-why-presidents-niece-013827860.html
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Can I marry her?
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We are saving that for season five.

RickDeckard · Jun 18, 2020

John Bolton is obviously a hypocrite for not doing more while he was in Trump's cabinet, and he is a major war criminal. But if these assholes want to rip each other apart, that's fine by me.

Bickendan · Jun 18, 2020

spot261 said: ↑

The Night Funky said: ↑

We Are Borg said: ↑

Trump's niece is releasing a tell-all book that will air a lot of Trump family dirty laundry:

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/mary-trump-why-presidents-niece-013827860.html
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Can I marry her?
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Ask yourself this: Do you really want to have any association with Donald?

Asyncritus · Jun 18, 2020

All I can say is that if Trump is explicitly campaigning against anti-fascists, then he must be in favour of fascists.

Not that that's news...

matthunter · Jun 18, 2020

Bolton apparently also alleged that Trump defended Saudi Arabia over the Kashoggi murder in part to distract from allegations about Ivanka using a private email server for government business (given the awkwardness over having slammed Hilary for the same thing). Walter Schaub, former White House ethics chief, has revealed some emails also showing that Ivanka was using email to discuss government business (including referring to a White House official as HER Chief of Staff) PRIOR to her being officially appointed as a government employee.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...a-trump_n_5eeaceddc5b67b92ff2d260c?ri18n=true

matthunter · Jun 18, 2020

This happened with Comey too - Trump accused him of leaking. If he was making shit up, call him a liar. You can't leak unless it's true.

We Are Borg · Jun 18, 2020

RickDeckard said: ↑

John Bolton is obviously a hypocrite for not doing more while he was in Trump's cabinet, and he is a major war criminal. But if these assholes want to rip each other apart, that's fine by me.
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I don't have a lot of use for former Trump officials who "tell all" after they've left office.

Cowards.

Stand up and do the right thing when it counts.

Not when you can make a few bucks.

(Still doesn't alter my opinion of Trump, and I doubt Bolton's book will change anyone's mind anyway.)

Amaris · Jun 18, 2020

This seems bad.

Trump campaign runs ads with marking once used by Nazis to designate political prisoners

SF Gate said:

In its online salvo against antifa and "far-left mobs," President Donald Trump's reelection campaign is displaying a marking once used by the Nazis to designate political prisoners in concentration camps.

The red inverted triangle was first used in the 1930s to identify Communists, and was applied as well to Social Democrats, liberals, Freemasons and other members of opposition parties. The badge forced on Jewish political prisoners, by contrast, featured a red inverted triangle superimposed on a yellow triangle.

A spokesman for the Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The symbol appeared in Facebook ads run by Trump and Vice President Mike Pence, as well as the "Team Trump" account on Facebook. It was featured alongside text warning of "Dangerous MOBS of far-left groups" and asking users to sign a petition about antifa, a loose collection of anti-fascist activists whom the Trump administration has sought to tie to recent violence, in spite of arrest records showing their involvement is trivial.

Other variations of the ads use a yield sign, which has the same shape and a similar color scheme but is notably distinct in only featuring a red outline and a white interior. Some of the material also features a stop sign.

"I think it's a highly problematic use of a symbol that the Nazis used to identify their political enemies," said Jacob Eder, a historian of modern Germany at the Barenboim-Said Akademie in Berlin. "It's hard to imagine it's done on purpose, because I'm not sure if the vast majority of Americans know or understand the sign, but it's very, very careless to say the least."

Bend the Arc: Jewish Action, a progressive advocacy group, condemned the use of the notorious symbol in campaign advertising.

"This isn't just one post," the group wrote on Twitter. "This is dozens of carefully targeted ads from the official pages of Mike Pence, Donald Trump, and Team Trump. All paid for by Trump and the Republican National Committee. All spreading lies and genocidal imagery."

Some of the ads featuring the inverted red triangle, which began running on Wednesday, were still active on Trump's page on Thursday morning. They had gained as many as 950,000 impressions from the president's Facebook account alone. Identical ads on Pence's account, which were also still active, had gained as many as 500,000 impressions.
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Source: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-campaign-runs-ads-with-marking-once-used-by-15349154.php
FB Page of Team Trump (his official campaign FB page): https://www.facebook.com/1771156219...-our-streets-and-causing-ab/2674044392885101/

The Trump Make America Great Again Committee is a joint partnership between the Donald Trump campaign and the RNC:

Source: https://donate.donaldjtrump.com/lets-keep-fighting

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Quincunx · Jun 18, 2020

Get ready to hear it was all a brilliant troll because the lamestream media has gone hysterical with another Trump/Nazi comparison.

steve2^4 · Jun 18, 2020

Seems we're well down the rabbit hole.

oldfella1962 · Jun 18, 2020

hmmm.....big red triangle? Frat-boy code for the carpet matches the drapes?

Amaris · Jun 18, 2020

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hmmm.....big red triangle? Frat-boy code for the carpet matches the drapes?
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You're kidding me, right?

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/classification-system-in-nazi-concentration-camps

steve2^4 · Jun 18, 2020

Excerpts from Bolton's book. I've copied the NYTimes article if you don't have access. It's worth a read. Gives his excuse for not testifying before the house.

John R. Bolton, the former national security adviser, plans to publish a damning book next week depicting President Trump as a corrupt, poorly informed, reckless leader who used the power of his office to advance his own personal and political needs even ahead of the nation’s interests.

The book, “The Room Where It Happened,” describes Mr. Bolton’s 17 turbulent months at Mr. Trump’s side through a multitude of crises and foreign policy challenges, but attention has focused mainly on his assertions that the president took a variety of actions that should have been investigated for possible impeachment beyond just the pressure campaign on Ukraine to incriminate Democrats.

Mr. Bolton, who did not testify during House proceedings and whose offer to testify in the Senate trial was blocked by Republicans, confirms many crucial elements of the Ukraine scheme that got Mr. Trump impeached in December. He also asserts that the president was willing to intervene in criminal investigations to curry favor with foreign dictators. And he says that Mr. Trump pleaded with China’s president to help him win re-election by buying American crops grown in key farm states.

Here are some of the highlights:

An offer of firsthand evidence on the Ukraine matter.
The book offers firsthand evidence that Mr. Trump linked his suspension of $391 million in security aid for Ukraine to his demands that Ukraine publicly announce investigations into supposed wrongdoing by Democrats, including former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. — the heart of the impeachment case against the president.

They’ll enjoy our special rate of $1 a week.

Mr. Bolton otherwise confirms testimony offered by his former Russia adviser, Fiona Hill, that he objected to the “drug deal” being cooked up by Mr. Trump’s associates to force Ukraine to help and that he called Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer who was hip deep in the affair, “a hand grenade who’s going to blow everybody up.” He writes that he suspected that Mr. Giuliani had personal business interests at stake and adds that he had the matter reported to the White House Counsel’s Office.

“I thought the whole affair was bad policy, questionable legally, and unacceptable as presidential behavior,” Mr. Bolton writes. “Was it a factor in my later resignation? Yes, but as one of many ‘straws’ that contributed to my departure.”

Explaining a lack of testimony, and placing blame on Democrats.
As the book nears publication and details spill out, many congressional Democrats quickly assailed Mr. Bolton for not telling his story during the impeachment proceedings and instead saving it for his $2 million book.

voted to block new testimony by him and any other witnesses even after The New York Times reported that his forthcoming book would confirm the quid pro quo. Some of those Republican senators said that even if Mr. Bolton was correct, it would not be enough in their minds to justify making Mr. Trump the first president in American history convicted and removed from office.

Mr. Bolton blames House Democrats for being in a rush rather than waiting for the court system to rule on whether witnesses like him should testify, and he faults them for narrowing their inquiry to just the Ukraine matter rather than building a broader case with more examples of misconduct by the president.

“Had a Senate majority agreed to call witnesses and had I testified, I am convinced, given the environment then existing because of the House’s impeachment malpractice, that it would have made no significant difference in the Senate outcome,” he writes.

Singling out episodes of “obstruction of justice as a way of life.”
The other episodes that Mr. Bolton says the House should have investigated include Mr. Trump’s willingness to intervene in Justice Department investigations against foreign companies to “give personal favors to dictators he liked.” Mr. Bolton said it appeared to be “obstruction of justice as a way of life.”

He singles out Halkbank of Turkey, a state-owned financial institution investigated for a multibillion-dollar scheme to evade American sanctions on Iran. At a side encounter during a Buenos Aires summit meeting in late 2018, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey handed Mr. Trump a memo by the law firm representing Halkbank, “which Trump did nothing more than flip through before declaring he believed Halkbank was totally innocent.” He then told Mr. Erdogan “he would take care of things.”

later spent months trying to negotiate a settlement with the bank, but that came to an end in October, after Mr. Bolton left office, when the Justice Department charged Halkbank in a six-count indictment.

China, Mr. Trump offered to lighten the penalties.

“Xi replied that if that were done, he would owe Trump a favor and Trump immediately responded he was doing this because of Xi,” Mr. Bolton writes. He called himself “appalled” and “stunned” by the idea of intervening in a criminal investigation to let a sanctions buster off the hook. In the end, at Mr. Trump’s behest, the Justice Department accepted a $1 billion fine and lifted a seven-year ban on buying American products, an act of lenience that saved the company from going out of business.

A new allegation in the book accuses Mr. Trump of “pleading” with Mr. Xi to help him win re-election by buying American agricultural products, which would help the president in farm states. Mr. Trump did not deny it when asked about the matter on Wednesday night by Sean Hannity on Fox News, but Robert Lighthizer, his trade representative, did on his behalf earlier in the day, saying it was not true.

Describing a toxic environment inside the administration.
Over a long career in and out of Republican administrations in Washington, Mr. Bolton has rarely shied from giving his opinions, usually born of strong conservative national security convictions that have made him one of the capital’s most outspoken hawks advocating the use of military power and sanctions.

While he agreed with Mr. Trump on issues like getting out of the nuclear accord with Iran, he found himself repeatedly trying to stop the president from making concessions to other rogue states or making an ill-considered peace deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan while pushing for a more robust use of force against outliers like Iran or Syria. He considered Mr. Trump’s diplomacy to be folly.

To Mr. Bolton, Mr. Trump’s decision to meet North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, in Singapore was a “foolish mistake,” and the president’s desire to then invite Mr. Kim to the White House was “a potential disaster of enormous magnitude.” A series of presidential Twitter posts about China and North Korea were “mostly laughable.” Mr. Trump’s meeting with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia in Helsinki was a “self-inflicted wound” and “Putin had to be laughing uproariously at what he had gotten away with in Helsinki.”

John F. Kelly, then the White House chief of staff, disparaged the departing adviser, H.R. McMaster, by saying, “The president hasn’t had a national security adviser in the past year and he needs one.” Mr. Pompeo, the book says, disparaged Nikki R. Haley, then the ambassador to the United Nations, calling her “light as a feather.”

Battling over what is deemed classified information.
The Justice Department has gone to court to stop the book from being published, arguing that it has classified information in it and that it was not cleared by a prepublication review required of former government officials like Mr. Bolton.

In fact, according to his lawyer, Charles J. Cooper, Mr. Bolton participated in an extensive back-and-forth over the book and agreed to all of the revisions mandated by the career official who reviewed it or came up with acceptable alternatives. Only when the review was over did another official, Michael J. Ellis, a political appointee, step in to review it all over again at the instruction of Robert C. O’Brien, Mr. Bolton’s successor as national security adviser.

If there is classified information still in the book, it is hard to figure out what it might be. There are not references to secret intelligence programs or espionage sources and methods. But Mr. Trump insisted this week that every conversation with him was “highly classified” and therefore could not be disclosed, an assertion that goes far beyond tradition.

In his epilogue, Mr. Bolton says that in a few cases, “I was prevented from conveying information that I thought was not properly classifiable, since it revealed information that can only be described as embarrassing to Trump or as indicative of possible impermissible behavior.” One example is the direct quote of what Mr. Trump said to Mr. Xi about helping him win re-election.

For the most part, though, Mr. Bolton explains in the epilogue that the career official who reviewed the book merely made him take quotation marks off things that the president said and otherwise generally left them in. And so Mr. Bolton offers a guide to readers: “In some cases, just put your own quotation marks around the relevant passages; you won’t go far wrong.”
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And here's the WAPO review:

John Bolton’s book is full of startling revelations he should have told us sooner

Then-national security adviser John Bolton speaks to reporters outside the White House in 2019. His book, “The Room Where It Happened,” eviscerates Trump’s foreign policy record and exposes the president, in Bolton’s words, as “stunningly uninformed.” (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
“Vengeance is mine; I will repay, says the Lord,” reads a famous passage from St. Paul’s Letter to the Romans. John Bolton has provided a secular version of that cosmic payback in his account of Donald Trump’s presidency, “The Room Where It Happened.”

As much as you think you know about the arrogance, vanity and sheer incompetence of Trump’s years in the White House, Bolton’s account will still astonish you. He narrates his 17 months as national security adviser in remarkable detail. He seems to have collated every Trump rant, reckless phone call, and muttered aside. No wonder the White House was so determined to block this book: It eviscerates Trump’s foreign policy record and exposes him, in Bolton’s words, as “stunningly uninformed.”

(Simon & Schuster)
Bolton offers new tidbits about Ukraine, the issue on which Trump was impeached and where Democrats desperately sought Bolton’s testimony. He confirms an aide’s account that Bolton viewed Trump’s Ukraine machinations as a “drug deal,” provides new evidence that “Ukraine security assistance was at risk of being swallowed by the Ukraine fantasy conspiracy theories.” In sum, he says, “the whole affair was bad policy, questionable legally, and unacceptable as presidential behavior.” This account should deeply embarrass Republican senators who offered unblinking defenses of Trump’s Ukraine actions during the impeachment trial.

The great achievement of this book is that it links the Ukraine fiasco to Trump’s other foreign policy misdeeds. Indeed, Bolton argues that the Democrats committed “impeachment malpractice” because the Ukraine focus “provided no opportunity to explore Trump’s ham-handed involvement in other matters . . . that should not properly be subject to manipulation by a President for personal reasons.”

Bolton’s takeaway line: “I am hard-pressed to identify any significant Trump decision during my tenure that wasn’t driven by re-election calculations.”

Perhaps the most startling new disclosure is that Trump sought political help from China’s Xi Jinping, just as he had expressed support for a Russian email dump in 2016 and Ukrainian political favors in his famous July 25, 2019, phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

According to Bolton, in a June 18, 2019, phone called with Xi about trade matters, Trump “then, stunningly, turned the conversation to the coming US presidential election . . . pleading with Xi to ensure he’d win.” Bolton also notes that North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un at the February 2019 summit in Hanoi said that “he didn’t want Trump to do anything that would harm him politically,” to which Bolton adds in his text, “Oh great,” one of the snarky literary asides scattered throughout the book.

Bolton should have taken these insights about Trump to House impeachment investigators, or surely to Senate impeachment jurors. The closest he seems to have come to seeking accountability was a visit to Attorney General William P. Barr while the Ukraine “drug deal” was unfolding. Bolton says he “wanted to brief him on Trump’s penchant to, in effect, give personal favors to dictators he liked,” including Xi and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. That comment begs for further investigation.

Bolton offers a damning review of nearly every theater of Trump’s foreign policy: His coddling of Kim “made me ill”; his last-minute reversal of a retaliatory strike against Iran after the shoot-down of a U.S. drone was “the most irrational thing I ever witnessed any President do”; his withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria was a “huge mistake”; the “slowness and lack of agility” of his Venezuela policy was “painful to watch.”

A veteran bureaucratic infighter, Bolton dishes dirt about everyone he doesn’t like, and it’s a very long list. Former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley was “untethered” and a “free electron”; former national security adviser Michael Flynn was “inadequate” and “self-destructed”; senior adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner was a meddler who was “doing international negotiations he shouldn’t have been doing (along with the never-quite-ready Middle East peace plan)”; Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was secretive, too willing to make concessions that Trump wanted and so overly subservient to the boss that a pushback on arms control was “a rare occasion of Pompeo’s being explicitly critical of something Trump did.” One intriguing note is how often Pompeo (like Bolton) talked of resigning.

But it’s Jim Mattis who’s Bolton’s favorite punching bag. Every dozen pages there’s another shot at the former secretary of defense . He’s “looking for excuses not to do much of anything” in retaliating against Syrian chemical weapons use; he would “predict gloom and doom when he didn’t get his way” on policy; he used “spite” as a common tactic, prompting Bolton to observe “they didn’t call him ‘Chaos’ for nothing.”

Mattis’s resignation in December 2018 appears to have gratified Bolton. He quotes Trump’s parting line: “He’s leaving . . . I never really liked him.” And Trump’s bizarre claim: “He’s a liberal Democrat, you know that, don’t you?”

Bolton is the hero of nearly every anecdote in the book. Indeed, for a memoir that is startlingly candid about many things, Bolton’s utter lack of self-criticism is one of the book’s significant shortcomings. Nearly every policy discussion is an opportunity for Bolton to say that he was right, people should have listened to him, he knew it would never work, he was vindicated. His only problem is that, having burned so many bridges with this book, Fox News may not give him a future platform to explain how right he is.

Given how long and disastrously Bolton enabled this president, his self-satisfaction becomes annoying. So does Bolton’s trademark disdain for the foreign policy establishment (who he likes to deride as the “High-Minded”). Sometimes, his antagonism toward negotiations is so reflexive, you almost sympathize with Trump’s desire to talk with forbidden adversaries, such as North Korea and Iran.

It’s telling that one of the criticisms Bolton makes about Trump’s opening to North Korea was that he was acting like a diplomat. “The real irony here was how similar Trump was to the Foreign Service.”

Many previous books have revealed Trump’s bizarre machinations and musings, but none so damagingly as this one by a conservative former supporter. At times, Trump rambles during a long flight to Iraq about how he may drop Mike Pence for Nikki Haley as vice president in 2020, and whether he’ll win the Nobel Peace Prize. Discussing Trump’s ever-vacillating views about China, Bolton says, “This was policy by personal whim and impulse.”

As Bolton describes his running conversation with the president, it’s a series of broken records. Trump rambles through repeated tirades about Europeans who don’t pay enough for defense, the perfidy of Mattis who’s trying to box him in, the need to indict John F. Kerry for alleged Logan Act violations for interfering with Trump’s “maximum pressure” campaign against Iran. And most especially, the need to withdraw American troops from Syria, Afghanistan, Germany, South Korea.

The abiding problem, says Bolton, was Trump’s lack of a clear vision of what he wanted to accomplish, beyond dominating the news cycle. This was foreign policy by disruption, conditioned on Trump’s view that he could charm or intimidate anyone (seemingly unaware that he was being played by the toughest and most ruthless people in the world).

“Trump was not following any international grand strategy, or even a consistent trajectory,” Bolton observes. “His thinking was like an archipelago of dots (like individual real estate deals), leaving the rest of us to discern — or create — policy.” Bolton comments at another point: “He opposed ‘endless wars’ in the Middle East but had no coherent plan for what followed withdrawing US forces.”

Perhaps the most damning comment Bolton offers, in the end, isn’t about foreign policy but Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic. “Trump’s reflex effort to talk his way out of anything . . . even a public-health crisis, only undercut his and the nation’s credibility, with his statements looking more like political damage control than responsible public-health advice.”

John F. Kelly, Trump’s harassed chief of staff, mutters to Bolton at one point, “Has there ever been a presidency like this?” To which Bolton replies tartly: “I assured him there had not.”

This book ought to be a wake-up call, finally, to Republicans who have slavishly defended Trump and belittled his critics. Bolton took his time in telling us the truth, and he should have done more when it was his duty during the impeachment inquiry. But it’s all here. In boxing, you’d call it a knockout punch.

The Room Where It Happened

A White House Memoir
By John Bolton

Simon & Schuster. 577 pp. $32.50
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steve2^4 · Jun 18, 2020

Amaris said: ↑

oldfella1962 said: ↑

hmmm.....big red triangle? Frat-boy code for the carpet matches the drapes?
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You're kidding me, right?

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/classification-system-in-nazi-concentration-camps
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I think it was an attempt at humor.

garamet · Jun 18, 2020

We Are Borg said: ↑

RickDeckard said: ↑

John Bolton is obviously a hypocrite for not doing more while he was in Trump's cabinet, and he is a major war criminal. But if these assholes want to rip each other apart, that's fine by me.
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I don't have a lot of use for former Trump officials who "tell all" after they've left office.

Cowards.

Stand up and do the right thing when it counts.

Not when you can make a few bucks.

(Still doesn't alter my opinion of Trump, and I doubt Bolton's book will change anyone's mind anyway.)
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Amaris · Jun 18, 2020

steve2^4 said: ↑

Amaris said: ↑

oldfella1962 said: ↑

hmmm.....big red triangle? Frat-boy code for the carpet matches the drapes?
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You're kidding me, right?

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/classification-system-in-nazi-concentration-camps
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I think it was an attempt at humor.
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I sincerely hope that is the case, considering @oldfella1962's age and stated life experiences.

We Are Borg · Jun 18, 2020

steve2^4 said: ↑

Gives his excuse for not testifying before the house.
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What a paper-thin excuse. He's a coward and money-grubber.

shootER · Jun 18, 2020

Facebook removes Trump ads for violating 'organized hate' policy

K. · Jun 18, 2020

Eait, there were 88 of them? Very hard to believe in any kind of a coincidence.

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