Corona virus, what's different for you.

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  1. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    :lol: Been flying the country from one end to the other since this started, just like normal. I only wear a mask where I'm required to by local rules and such, and I was already washing my hands before all this started. I am categorically unafraid of Covid-19. (Prolly just jinxed myself right there, but hell, everyone's gotta die of something!)

    The virus has been shown to have a better than 99% survival rate unless you are really old or compromised. I think the reaction to it, and subsequent lockdowns, were pure media-driven hysteria and did not match the scope of the threat in any way, shape, or form. I also believe, although I don't have any hard stats to prove it, that the mental side-effects of the lockdowns will ultimately result in more deaths than the virus itself.
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  2. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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  3. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    True about traffic :shakefist: and the chemicals! :yuck: When I go into a grocery store I'll take a cart that has been "airing out" for a while rather than one that was just wiped down by an employee seconds before I grab it. Same with wiping down the conveyor belt surface in the checkout line. I don't want my groceries smelling funky! I can wipe them off when I get home with my non-funky cleaning products.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    many doctors agree that in the long run the lockdown side-effects will be significant. I won't list any links because I know what a "casting pearls before swine" exercise in futility that would be. :lol:
    The collective "but..but..but..but" would sound like an outboard motor boat! :lol:
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  5. Mrs. Albert

    Mrs. Albert demented estrogen monster

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    I don’t think it will be worse than the virus, but there are definitely folks whose mental health is declining due to the isolation. :(
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  6. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    in addition to mental health a lot of medical procedures are on hold because hospitals can't do anything that isn't COVID related or actual life-and death. Everything is "elective surgery" or deemed not essential. For people whose health is already compromised that is creating a lot of deferred medical care that will be harder to treat the longer they wait.
  7. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Gloves aren't that great for protecting yourself really. Virus that gets onto your hands is only really a problem once it goes near your face and there is some speculation that people wearing their gloves aren't hand washing as often, and thereby spreading it more to surfaces they will later touch bare handed.

    We're still working from home, might have an update on a plan for moving on from that today. SA is sitting at 3 weeks since the last known local case, and almost two months since the last confirmed case that was transmitted locally.

    Border restrictions have started to be lifted internally. Up to yesterday our state required any arrivals other than essential travellers to quarantine for two weeks on arrival, that is now lifted for travel from some states that also have low/no active cases.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Covid-19 hasn't been as bad as it could have been, but this is a bad take. Even if it turns out that we dodged a bullet compared to potential death rates (not saying that's the case, but lets take it as if it is) from the data we had at the time it just as easily could have gone much much worse.

    All that ignores the fact that the reason survival rates are as good as they are is because many cases are able to get medical care they wouldn't have in an uncontrolled spread.
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    Went to the store this evening, and once again, almost no one besides myself was wearing a mask. I also noticed that they'd been completely cleaned out of toilet paper (not that they've had a lot in stock for some time now) and similar products. A lot of the shelves were bare like they'd been cleaned out by customers in recent days. Not sure why that is.
  10. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    It's a thing. I won't say "conspiracy," but seriously. Do you have a Dollar/99-cent store near you? Check them. They've got TP, tissues, paper towels. Not Charmin Cushy Ply, but they get the job done.
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  11. Tuckerfan

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    That's basically where I was. Dollar General, so slightly upmarket of the dollar stores, but not by much. I don't need any TP, however. I bought a bidet back in December.

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  12. Tererune

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    My grandfather's dementia has not been helped by having most of his conversations with people killed off. At least he used to go to his community center and talk to people every day. It was even good he had a "girlfriend" he did not want the rest of the family to know about. I just happened to bump into them bringing something to him one day. Now she is gone to the hospital and he just cannot put any sentences together.

    This is going to be a huge decline for people on that edge to lose all conversation. It is just not the same watching TV.
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  13. oldfella1962

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    I'm at a loss as to why the paper products shortage is still ongoing. Everything else where I live is pretty muck back to pre-COVID levels.
    Wait....Oscar Meyer beef bologna is hard to get. :huh: That said there is plenty of beef in the stores such as ground beef, steaks, roasts, etc. but not Oscar Meyer beef bologna, my wife's favorite. I'm talking about every store I go to! They have Oscar Meyer chicken & pork bologna - and other brands of beef bologna - but not Oscar Meyer beef bologna.
    Also my local Walmart stopped carrying store brand diet creme soda. :brood: They still have "jazz snackers" apples in the 3 pound bag, so society hasn't completely broken down.
  14. K.

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    You're not risking your life by doing that, you're risking other people's lives. They in turn risk yours when they fail to keep distanced, masked, etc.

    Not even remotely true (plus completely ignores the severe chronic consequences many survivors are showing).
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  15. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Actually, that is the death rate. That is not a lie. The hospitalization rate is serious, and the after effects for those who are effected severely are bad, but the death rate is not even one percent. The serious effects of being hospitalized and having your lung tissue and circulatory tissues heavily damaged and probably scarred for life is certainly a heavy concern as that will cause you to have to rehabilitate and will forever effect how your body works.

    I don't want to bullshit, if this hits you hard you are going to be hurt for a while and probably for the rest of your life. There is a far better possibility this hits you hard than you dying from it. The percentage of people facing severe injury is much more of a concern for getting it.
  16. K.

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    No. The death rate is well above 5%.
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  17. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    We do not have testing on most people who get it. 5 percent of people hospitalized dying is not 5 percent death rate. If the actual death rate is 5 percent we would be looking at more than 15 million dead in america alone. Please do not quote improper number as they tend to alarm certain people and the clucking gets really annoying.
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  18. steve2^4

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    We're talking US?

    115,000 deaths/2,130,000cases=.054deaths/case or 5.4% death rate. K is Korrekt.

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  19. oldfella1962

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    That and there is some "cooking the books" on causes of death: even if COVID had nothing to do with someones's death, if they happened to be COVID positive it might be considered a "COVID" death. Not saying that's widespread, but it is happening, in some places more than others.
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    i'm so glad you're categorically unafraid of covid-19.

    it's not about you, fuckwad. And with your travel pattern you could easily become a superspreader. Typhoid-Marso.

    crikey you're a right nit selfish bugger.
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  21. K.

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    Nope, that is a myth that has been thoroughly debunked.
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    Yes. Which is the same death rate as the one reported globally, down to the first decimal place. This makes it quite unlikely that specific chances for testing/hospitalization etc. have distorted the result.
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  23. steve2^4

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    I hate to say it, but T and M are on about the percentage of deaths by age group, and if you're under a certain age the death rate is considerably lower. This is true.

    But it's an entirely selfish way of looking at it. T, you should be ashamed. M, you should feel proud to be a white male.
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    That is life. Over a certain age everything starts to become much more fatal. Don't blame the messenger.
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    I will when the message is the corona virus.
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  26. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    I was curious to see what my electricity usage was for May until now for this year compared to last year. I had to have a new AC system installed in April, and have been keeping the temperature a few degrees cooler this year than last year. My account shows a negative balance of $337.45, which confused me. So after poking around on the website for my power company and looking at my bill for last month, it turns out that my power company deposited/credited $420.15 to my account.

    Of that $420.15, $360 was some sort of Corona relief fund, the other $60.15 was a capital payment credit. So that's pretty cool, that will cover my electric bill for the 3 or 4 months. So I guess that's a win for me, and was totally unexpected.

    Here's where the deposit shows up on my bill.

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    Here's my current balance

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    Another one of my coworkers tested positive. Fortunately she’s not someone I routinely encountered.
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    A good friend of mine from high school is concerned that he and his wife and daughter have it. They god tested over the weekend but haven't gotten the results back yet. :(
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  29. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    Sometimes, timing just helps or hurts you.

    We were admittedly very lucky timing-wise with the TP thing. Well, partly as well because we're empty nesters now and don't need great gobs of bog roll, but... we'd just hit Costco and bought one of those big packs before the crazy run on TP. Never came close to running low, and then went to Costco for the first time since then, and they had stock. Bought one more big pack, and one of paper towels. (We actually went because we were out of the latter.) So, we're fortunate to have a big pack in reserve and we're still working through the last one.

    Timing, I tell ya. It can save you from a shitty situation. ;)
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  30. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    Bull. Shit.
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