Prepare for War!

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  1. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Because Joe Biden will probably get us there if the CIA has anything to say about it. They definitely thought Obama was their man.
    But wait there’s more.
    And you wonder why we don’t see much if anything about war in the MSM. Because they want it that way.
    What President just lost his incumbency, something that is rare in American politics unless you’re not at war, Trump. What President has bucked the trend of plunging us deeper into the war machine? That’s right, Donald Trump.

    No doubt the CIA wanted him out. Am I claiming voter fraud or there’s some sort of conspiracy, no. I think Biden won fair and square, but this would be good fuel to the fire for the conspiracy theorists. While Biden is not as charismatic as Obama, he’s putting a lot of the same people in his cabinet and will likely go along with whatever war the Military Industrial Complex wants.

    After all, the last President who tried to reign in the CIA ended up with his brains splatter in Dallas.
    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-long-forgotten-cia-document-from
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  2. Ten Lubak

    Ten Lubak Salty Dog

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    Man this poor kid is like one more conspiracy away from becoming OAN's #1 fan :(

    When should we point out that Obama didn't start any wars, merely continued with what he inherited.....
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  3. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    And you’re okay with that?
  4. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I wonder what happened to Donnie's announced troop draw-down. Guess it'll be like the "beautiful health plan in two weeks" that he promised 3-4 months ago, or maybe the "wonderful vaccine" from :rofl: Operation Warp Speed... any day now.
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  5. Ten Lubak

    Ten Lubak Salty Dog

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    Not really, OAN is mindless, dangerous propaganda and the best thing we can do is just ignore them

    It's up to you at the end of the day though
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  6. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I’m talking about the forever wars, not OAN.
  7. Ten Lubak

    Ten Lubak Salty Dog

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    What forever wars? Are there some thousands of years old wars I don't know about?

    If you're talking about Iraq and Afghanistan, I mean your shithole country fucked everything up there and probably owe it to those countries to try and restore some normalcy there. If you leave then there's a good chance those nations probably devolve into bigger hellholes than they already are. On the other hand, the Middle East eating itself probably wouldn't be the worst thing to happen to this planet......

    Gee, maybe you should have listened when people said don't invade Iraq based on obvious, shitty lies. Instead I'm sure you were there beating the old march to war drum, dreaming of the day when you'd be finally old enough to vote for George Bush :shrug:
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  8. Zor Prime

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    Despite his campaign rhetoric Trump did not actually end any wars.

    Instead he buddied up with neocons like Pompeo and pushed us closer to war with Iran.

    And despite his pre-campaign tweets about our crooked dealings with Saudi Arabia he continued to deal with them and probably profited from those deals on a personal level too.

    I don’t expect any better from Biden on that regard, to be fair. But when it comes to being anti-war there are only a few on each side who buck the consensus (Tulsi, Bernie, Rand Paul).
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  9. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Whelp I was hoping you’d actually want a real discussion and not just troll today, but you’re never going to do that are you? You’ll never stop. You’re Zod and you need your neck broken. Because I can’t do that, I’ll just stop engaging with you. And for the I don’t know how many times now, I didn’t vote for Bush either time and I was old enough and registered to vote and vote in bot 2000 and 2004 so you can shove that right up your ass.
  10. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    This is a pretty routine part of what the CIA does, reporting on how U.S. policy is perceived in other countries. Of course the America haters and conspiracy kooks will try to make it seem nefarious. :jayzus:
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  11. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Yep, subverting the will of the people of various allied countries is in no way nefarious.:dayton:
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    Rimjob Bob Classy Fellow

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    And for my next thread, a central banking conspiracy theory!
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  13. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Since you didn’t read the OP, it’s not a conspiracy, there’s a memo that proves what is said in the article is true.
  14. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    He's not trolling, at least in the substance of his posts.

    You've been in virtually non stop wars for a long time, so what is there to "get ready" for? You're already there. It's seemingly part and parcel of being an empire.

    Yes, you've a hell of a lot to answer for in the Middle East but that's not the whole story and there are a lot of vested interests, power plays, fragile egos, national posturing and general human shitiness to go around us all for the foreseeable.

    Which, funnily enough, is one reason amongst many I'm not sold on this artificial and socially enforced worship of your military.
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  15. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    You literally end with a JFK assassination conspiracy theory.
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  16. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    Nothing was subverted, at least according to this document. It’s all pretty speculative. Again, part of why we have the CIA, to tell us how people in other countries – allied or otherwise –might react to changes in U.S. policy.
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  17. Order2Chaos

    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    Even if you discount Syria/ISIS as part of Iraq fallout, there’s still Yemen, Cameroon, Uganda, and Libya. Obama was no shrinking violet when it came to foreign troop deployment.
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  18. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    The dude could deploy some drones that's for sure! And green lighting the Osama Bin Laden raid was a good call. :salute:
    I'm thinking Smokin' Joe Biden would have scratched the Navy SEALS mission and just had mental health crisis counselors shoot Bin Laden in the leg....with an airsoft gun! :yes:
  19. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    But bombing the shit out of civilian targets is copacetic with you?
  20. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Christ on a crutch. You'd be hard pressed to find a President less likely to get us into a war. Joe ain't got time for that shit.
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  21. Chaos Descending

    Chaos Descending 14th Level Human Cleric

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    No you didn’t. I know this because you posted in the Red Room on Wordforge.net, one of the few places in the universe in which “a real discussion” is virtually guaranteed not to happen.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Joe might not but what about his puppet masters?
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  23. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    No, where did you get that idea?
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    George Soros and/or AOC...
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  25. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Because you don't seem to understand the function of the CIA, or wargames scenarios, or intel in general. You seem to believe "Let's discuss the possible parameters" means "Let's start a war."

    Kind of like when the GWB administration AND the Obama administration laid out a detailed pandemic plan, and the Trump administration shitcanned it because "it'll never happen because we're gonna build a Big Beautiful Wall to keep the immigrantsgerms out."
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  26. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    :lol: You had me going until these lines. I thought you actually believed the stuff you were typing, but you slipped up. Nice attempt at a troll, 5 out of 10.
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  27. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Yep. The US has been "at war" of varying degrees for the majority of its existence. Around 90%+ of the time. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous or ignorant. And we all know how much Federal Farmer prides himself as being a history buff, so he's being disingenuous.
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  28. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I understand the CIA’s role. I don’t trust them and there’s plenty of reason not to. This is just one of many examples of why, not including the OP.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore
  29. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Fact: Kennedy wanted to reign in the CIA and didn’t trust them.
    Fact #2 : Kennedy was killed in Dallas. Do you dispute these two facts?
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  30. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    If CIA did half the shit people think they do, they’d be doing twice the shit they actually are. :garamet:
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