Bullets for Ballots

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Tuckerfan, Mar 26, 2022.

  1. Tuckerfan

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    Both sides, amirite?
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  2. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I guess I don't have to wonder what his stance on the 2nd Amendment is. :wub:

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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Yeah, the stats aren't backing that up even a little.
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    In the analogy I guess we are technically safer from an invasion by Mexico or Canadia. But I do not feel safer with republicans having more guns just because of stupidity and not even because they might do something. I am pretty sure there is a bunch of friendly fire takedowns before they even figure out which parking lot they are going to build their base in.
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  5. steve2^4

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    Doesn't say anything about proving residency. I suggest we all sign up.

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  6. Uncle Albert

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    Stats that don't separate the good deaths from the bad and neutral are not mistakes or accidental omissions. They are deliberate attempts to mislead.
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  7. Jenee

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    Is this guy fucking kidding?

    An armed society is not a safe society. It’s a destructive society.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Any person with common sense does not want to be around lots of general people with easy access to guns. That is a full on safety concern.
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    You can’t vote if you don’t have any arms.:diacanu:
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    Tell that to Kittie Smith.

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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Funny you mention this because the NRA has suppressing data collection and gun violence research for decades.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/04/05/599773911/how-the-nra-worked-to-stifle-gun-violence-research

    Really makes you think who has a vested interest in obscuring that information :thinking:
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  14. Uncle Albert

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    I am aware of the talking point, and so long as the goal of the "study" is a reductive conclusion of "more guns=more gun deaths," without bothering to parse out the good deaths from the bad and neutral, the idea remains nothing more than a transparent piece of propaganda.

    Now, how will some fucktard twist that one? "Nuh uh YOU'RE teh reductive, YOU'RE teh propaganda."

    Just wait.
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    No you're the fucktard.
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    All data should be collected. From there, in spreadsheet format, there would be a column for the type of shooting, intentional or unintentional, hand gun vs … every other type of gun, did the victim know the assailant, individual vs multiple victims, …. The fact that the CDC can’t even collect the data is as much a problem for the pro-gun advocates as it is for the anti-gun advocates.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I'm gonna slide my finger across the color wheel, and you nod when you see your version of "good".
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  18. Steal Your Face

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    Why should the CDC be collecting any information on gun deaths in the first place?
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  19. Jenee

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    Because the World Health Organization isn’t specific to the US. What other agency do you think should be collecting the data?
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    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/d...37,595 motor vehicle,2010 through 2019 (11.1).
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    Maybe the CDC?
  22. Steal Your Face

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    The FBI perhaps.
  23. Steal Your Face

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    What does that have to do with disease control?
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    As a factor in suicide?
  25. steve2^4

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    Same deal as car deaths. I don't know their mission statement, but it seems to extend beyond biological causes of disease.

    In humans, disease is often used more broadly to refer to any condition that causes pain, dysfunction, distress, social problems, or death to the person afflicted, or similar problems for those in contact with the person. In this broader sense, it sometimes includes injuries, disabilities, disorders, syndromes, infections, isolated symptoms, deviant behaviors, and atypical variations of structure and function, while in other contexts and for other purposes these may be considered distinguishable categories. Diseases can affect people not only physically, but also mentally, as contracting and living with a disease can alter the affected person's perspective on life.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease
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  26. Steal Your Face

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    I wasn't aware suicide was an infectious disease.
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    And then every candidate or elected official who invokes that data for any reason will be required under penalty of death to use it in its entirety, without indulging in cherrypicking to make a dishonest point, right?

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    Says a lot that you think rapists and burglars might be confined to any particular race, you disgusting bigot.
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    Then, like every fucking thing else, it’s up to the voter to determine sift facts from bullshit. There are other options, but you’ll just shoot them down too. So, what? Do you just stick your head in the sand? Do nothing. Say nothing. See nothing. Hear nothing.

    I’d rather have the facts.
  30. Uncle Albert

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    Sure, but no official who bangs that "CDC is forbidden" drum has any honest intentions, and I'll not see my freedoms eroded on a lie of omission.
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