January 6th Primetime Hearings

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  1. 14thDoctor

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    Canada joined WWII over two years before America did, BJ. :async:



    Related: Your parents must be so proud of that "education" you got. I bet they're looking up at you from the afterlife with such pride. :bergman:
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  2. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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  3. We Are Borg

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  4. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    The question wasn't what would have happened. @Raoul the Red Shirt put it best so I'll just quote his post again:

  5. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    We won a point at a quiz last night for correctly identifying her as the singer of that song. No point to this anecdote, it's just a good song.
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  6. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    In case you are not trolling:

    To be a crime, it generally is not enough to do a thing in and of itself. A prosecutor has to show that there is both an act and a criminal mindset to show that a crime that was committed. (Yes, there are lots of exceptions but they aren't relevant for this).

    Comey and the FBI found that all the stuff Clinton did re: e-mails and servers was sloppy, reckless, etc., but did not clearly fit the criminal statute to the point that they were not going to recommend criminal charges.

    Again, you don't have any special insight or knowledge of either the facts or law on this to say why Comey is wrong in his analysis...or do you?
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  7. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    Comes up as video unavailable for me. Region-locked?
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  8. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    In fairness, I think his answer effectively was: I won't be bullied into saying the Holocaust or slavery were bad ideas that challenge the notion of self-governance. It's an odd hill, but that's where he wants to die.
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  9. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    It's typical FF. He operates under the assumption that if he has said something it is a fact and can't be wrong, so anything which presents a challenge to that must be a trick.
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  10. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Of course there should be limits on what the government can do to it's people. That has nothing to do with what I was saying about the right of people to self govern. Douche bags took it to another level and started talking about the holocaust. That's not what I was talking about. They know this and decided to once again make this thread about me.

    Then they decided to attack me and my dead parents personally. Then I responded in kind and was told by @Bickendan to knock it off. Now I know the RR is not really moderated at all, but you specifically told me that the ownership does have standards that even pertain to the RR which is why people like Flashlight, Storm, and a few others have been permanently banned, including Gturner. We still don't know why gturner was banned, but whatever.

    So I ask you why should I be told to knock it off, but it's perfectly fine to attack my dead parents? This is a form of slander, in my opinion since those people don't know jack shit about my family and I think it's quite disgusting to suggest that my mom is in hell and would wish for slavery to return. My mom didn't have a racist bone in her body and raised me and my sister to not be racist. In fact all four of my grandparents weren't racist at all and they raised their children to not be racists. They were good christian people who lived by the words of Jesus to the best of their abilities up until the day they died. They were not the type Christians that you guys consistently attack on a damn near daily business. But don't take my word for it. If you don't believe me you can PM me and I'll give you their names and you can look them up and decide for yourself.

    I've sat here and taken a lot of abuse from these people, but I won't have my parents' good names dragged through the mud. That crosses the line and it's hitting below the belt, so to speak.

    You wanna ban me, go ahead, I can't stop you, but you really should re-evaluate the other members who consistently do this shit to me and before that it was Dayton. Say what you want about the guy, but he didn't deserve to have his family personally attacked either. There, I've said my piece.
  11. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Of course I think the holocaust was horrible. So was what the government did to blacks and native Americans and Japanese Americans and Chinese Americans and the list goes on. What douche bag was trying to do was make me say it like I'm Alex Jones on trial for Sandy Hook and he's not my judge and executioner and I don't owe him jack shit. I'm not going to say something just because he demands it, even if I believe it to be true. Fuck him, he's an asshole. And no @Bickendan I don't think he's an asshole with a heart of gold, he's a fucking asshole. Period. I'm not bowing down to him. He gets a pass because he's on your side and he's funny some times. It's the same thing for some of the others who chimed in. When do I ever get a pass? Never.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Both were systems under which human beings were seen as being less than human, were worked to death, murdered without impunity and had their families tore apart.

    The point isn't how bad you think each is in comparison to each other though. You tried to use the "right to self govern" as a rebutall in a way that presented the consequences of that self governance as irrelevant. You presented it as a blanket protection a full stop on the debate, so in that case it's perfectly valid to question if it's actually as good an argument or as conclusive a right as you assert.

    As for the rest of your post I certainly am not gonna ban you and do think some of the responses to you are in bad taste. However it does seem like you try to make things personal in a hope you can then hide any criticism of yourself behind that blanket.
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    Don't you get a hall pass when you need to go to the bathroom?
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  14. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Great.

    So simple Yes/No: do you believe that those sorts of horrible acts forfeit a community's right to self govern?
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  15. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Fair enough. Hate to do this, but I'm going to post a video of Jude Napalitano sort of explaining what's going on with Trump. At around the four minute mark he say's Clinton should have been charged with something to do with espionage so the FBI dropped the ball at best.
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    Have you thought of not sucking?
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  17. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    It forfeits that government's right to exist, IMO. The right of the people to self govern is a natural right. It is written in the Declaration of Independence.
    This was what the Southern states as a justification to secede and the Federal government should have recognized that right and allowed the Confederate states to peacefully leave the union.
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  18. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Have you?
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    So the government resorting to violence to defend slavery no longer has the right to exist, and the government that organized the Holocaust loses the right to exist... But the same asshole voters that put those governments in power and allowed them to stay there don't lose their right to self govern? What's to stop them from electing another government that goes right back to the committing the same atrocities as the previous government? :chris:
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  20. Steal Your Face

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    The passage of time.
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    How does "the passage of time" work "to stop them from electing another government that goes right back to the committing the same atrocities as the previous government?" :chris:
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    But we still allow other countries to commit atrocities on an even worse scale than the Nazis to this very day…

    Wait, what?
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  24. Bailey

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    That seems contradictory, to say that they should have been peacefully able to leave, however as soon as they did they would forfeit their right to self governance due to being founded on those principles.
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    I know the tightie righties have turned not understanding pronouns into a point of pride, but since TLS has claimed to be Black, you'd think he'd know that "we," not "they," is the usual pronoun for a group that includes oneself.
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  26. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I must have missed the breaking news that we are rolling tanks into North Korea or China or the Congo or Saudi Arabia or Cuba.
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  28. Bailey

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    Wait, you think that Cuba is treating people worse than Nazi Germany?
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  29. Steal Your Face

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    I think communism as a whole has.
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  30. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    That's neither what you said nor what was asked.
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