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Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by T.R, Apr 25, 2022.

  1. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    it really is bizarre, for my entire adult life (apart from early 80's?) the GOP has clearly and obviously either ignored the economy or bungled it in service to the wealthy, (they did in Reagan's first term too but it wasn't as clear to the general public as it should have been since because of the end of an ugly recession-inflation cycle) and in EVERY single election voters surveyed "Trusted Republicans more" on the economy

    I reiterate my oft expressed view that voters are basically morons. At least enough of them to get results like this.

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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    It's common in many countries, with little to no correlation towards actual outcomes.

    Largely think it's down to simplicity in messaging.
  3. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Democrats: ‘we’ll give you free money!”
    Republicans and Libertarians: “ you actually have to earn your money.”
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  4. tafkats

    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    Democrats: "We'll invest together in things that benefit everybody."
    Libertarians: "We won't invest in anything, and we'll look the other way while the rich screw you at every opportunity."
    Republicans: "We'll take your money and use it to help the rich screw you at every opportunity."
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  5. 14thDoctor

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    If your career failings weren't so well publicized, I'd ask how large your forgiven PPP loan was. :chris:
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  6. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Is that the same Democrats who believed in too big to fail and allowed ceos who screwed us at every turn to walk away with millions of dollars in their pockets and paid no repercussions for tanking the economy?
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  7. tafkats

    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    You mean like that well-known Democrat George W. Bush?
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  8. Order2Chaos

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    It’s a pretty good cudgel, but there it’s not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison between student loans and PPP. PPP was designed as a grant from the outset. Structuring it as a loan program was only to prevent business owners from taking the money and firing people anyway. There was never any intention of collecting on PPP loans. Student loans, by contrast, are, with a few exceptions (MSTP, public service forgiveness, and a few others), not subject to automatic forgiveness, and every intention was that they’d be paid back.
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  10. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    if the GOP wasn't so beholden to preserving the interests of the oligarchy they could be out there pointing out that as the long time Senator from Banking (I mean Delaware) Biden played a pretty large roll in setting up the circumstance that helped create this mess almost 20 years ago.
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  11. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    In part. At one time a lot of prestigious public university education was free or near to it, Gov. Reagan was pushed into addressing that along about the time folks began to realize what that would mean when desegregation was complete. As president he played a roll in the movement to defund public universities forcing tuition rates (and other fees) to make up the difference - this in turn led to an affordability crisis 20 years later which Bush and Congressional power players "fixed" by blowing up the student loan industry by both creating a federally backed system AND (this was Biden's bailiwick) making it near impossible to discharge SL in bankruptcy.

    Basically it all flowed from bigotry and the fetish for "small government" and privatized cost.
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  17. tafkats

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    Holy shit. I did not expect that.

    Here's hoping she wins the November election too.
  18. MikeH92467

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    It's one hell of an argument for ranked choice voting. :yes2:
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  19. Tuckerfan

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    Gotta love Tehran Tom Cotton bitching about ranked choice voting on Twitter, saying 60% of Alaskans voted for a Republican but the Dem won and how unfair it is... after the GOP touted the "popular vote doesn't get you POTUS!" line after 2016.
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  21. Steal Your Face

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  26. tafkats

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  27. tafkats

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    (I mean, I can't really fault him for the answer about cousins, because he was asked the question and he's technically right ... although it is odd that he jumped immediately to "this is the situation where it's OK," even though the questioner didn't specify the degree of cousinhood and most people do in fact mean their first cousin when they say "my cousin" ... but the really creepy thing is the rambling musings about why his daughters don't want to have sex with him. Like, dude, I'm starting to get the impression that you've thought about this a little too much.)
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  29. tafkats

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    The poors should be forced to have their doctor visits in public for our amusement!
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