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  1. Tuckerfan

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    I know that Trek, and some other SF shows, have had actual astronauts appear on episodes, but I don't think that any of them have had the astronauts as starship captains, even if it was a brief blip like Kelsey Grammer as Bateson. That, I think, would be pretty cool to have them do. Get someone like Buzz Aldrin to do it and the behind-the-scenes footage of him talking about being able to sit in the captain's chair would absolutely be epic.
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    I'm rewatching TWoK and when Kirk looks at the date of the Romulan Ale McCoy gives him, he says, "2283?" To which Bones replies, "Well, you've got to give this stuff time to ferment." Now, remember, the film was released in 1982. If you shift the time period forward to 2282, then it's a pretty funny joke. Right? I mean, it implies that Bones has managed to get his hands on some pretty harsh hooch that hasn't had time to properly age.

    However, according to Memory Alpha, that scene happens in 2285, which makes the joke a little less funny. When Bones tells Kirk that the eyeglasses he's given him as a present are 400 years old, remembering @garamet's comment that Nicolas Meyer had a "fetish" for Sherlock Holmes, I wondered if there was a connection. In looking at Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's life the first appearance by Holmes wasn't until 1886. So, date fudging is possible, but I'd think that if Meyer was going to be making a deliberate reference there'd be no date fudging. In looking at the wiki entries for 1882, 1883, and 1885, the only thing that I think might a direct reference is to 1882, which is when Treasure Island was first published. Meyer seems like the kind of guy who'd have enjoyed that and a reference to it doesn't seem to be out of the question.
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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    The TOS and TNG are moving to HBO Max.

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    You want what's quite possibly the nerdiest nitpick of Trek ever? Pay close attention to Kirk's eyeglasses in TWoK and IV. You'll notice that they have nose pads. I recently went on a deep dive of eyeglass styles because I was looking to buy a new pair that were identical to those worn by a favorite author of mine (James Joyce). Joyce was born in 1882 and the style he wore for much of his life was known as Windsors. They fell out of fashion in the 1920s. Why? The invention of nose pads. When McCoy gives the glasses to Kirk, he tells him that they're over 400 years old. The only way that this is possible is if McCoy somehow knew that the glasses would be traveling back in time. Which he couldn't have known at that point.
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    Also, am I wrong in thinking that on the basis of this scene that if Kirk and Chang had engaged in some hot gay sex much of the conflict in the movie could have been avoided?

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  6. tafkats

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    Did anyone else believe, until embarrassingly long into adulthood, that "Class M Planet" was a scientific designation in the real world?
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    No, but I did always wonder about Red Dwarf's designation S3 (Sol 3) which sounded a bit more likely.
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    I don't know about Chang, but Kirk could always score chicks. Yep, you're wrong.
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    I never assumed that, but I did wonder what "Class M" meant as a kid.
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    They didn’t explain it until Enterprise, it’s a Vulcan term for habitable.
    https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Class_M
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    A fan CGI clip of Enterprise leaving space dock.

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    The shot with the thrusters firing and the reverse camera angle on the Enterprise turning is just perfect. Great angle that we've never really seen in the film or television shows.

    Also, I never get tired of the scene with Uhura doing the "oh no you di'int" after Valeris reminds Kirk about Starfleet regulations.
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  16. Diacanu

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    And I caught up to 1-5 through the discount bins, and probably bought one of those $40 copies for $5.
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  17. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Was I the only geek that took the model kit, and the Mister Scott's Guide, and imagined every little thruster firing, and every little ball pivot on those phaser turrets?
    I already made that movie in my head.
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    Q Who: LaForge chides Gomez for having a mug of hot chocolate near the control consoles. In retrospect, this feels like a relic of its time: somebody writing that scene today would probably assume that a 24th-century LCARS console couldn't be damaged so easily.
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  19. Diacanu

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    Hey...we know LCARs is the operating system....but what coding language is it written in? :chris:
    This is a detail Lower Decks needs to address. :yes:
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    Given that Riker firmly planting his butt on the controls didn't cause the ship to fire weapons or do something else insane, you'd think that they'd have figured out how to deal with liquids on the controls.
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    There was a whole episode of TNG where a boy thought he had accidentally killed his parents by pressing the wrong button. We learned that's not possible in the episode.
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    So, he deliberately killed his parents then. That's nice.
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  23. Steal Your Face

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    No couldn't have pressed the wrong button because the consoles have safety protocols that prevent something like that.

    "Hero Worship"

    https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hero_Worship_(episode)
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    so when does SNW season 2 come out?

    That’s pretty much the only new TV I am looking forward to right now.

    Oh, that and Castlevania: Nocturne as well.
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    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Had Wrath of Khan on Betamax. Got sick for nearly a month with pneumonia, it was literally the only tape we had. I must have watched it a dozen times that month.
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    What!?
    *Googles*
    Oh, shit!! They're doing Rhondo Of Blood, and Symphony Of The Night!!
    :polarslam2:
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    Yes, its a sequel to the first Castlevania series. Just like in the games, this will time jump a few centuries and borrow elements from Rondo Of Blood and Symphony Of The Night.

    The first series loosely adapted Dracula’s Curse and Curse Of Darkness. So they are going straight from Trevor Belmont to Richter Belmont.

    Simon Belmont is getting skipped over, but at least he got to be in Captain N.
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    I always thought that guy would make a great Ambassador to the Ferengi.
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    My uncle sent me a VHS of Star Trek II and III when I was 7, and I watched is so many times the sound failed.
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  30. Diacanu

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    Okay, so get this...

    Lawrence Krauss calculated that the atomic pattern of an average sized human would be about octillion bytes, or a Zettabyte.
    But! Mike Okuda says the transporter works at quark resolution, which bumps it out another power of ten to a Yottabyte.
    BUT!!! Discovery says the Sphere Data comprises a few Yottabyes!!
    If a 23rd century computer regularly holds Yottabytes, they should be able to store and copy transporter patterns, and bring back the dead.
    But they can't.
    They still even need doctors.
    So!!! That means the pattern that goes into a pattern buffer must scan all the way down to the goddamned photons!
    Which...would make sense, for moments like the time Data fires a disrupter, and gets beamed, and the transporter beams the weapon beam, and then sifts the weapon's fire out, and turns the gun off.
    Or that it can beam optronic computers in mid operation.
    Or that people can move in the matter stream, which requires thinking in the matter stream, which requires all kinds of little electromagnetic interactions.
    But all this begs the question....how come by the 24th century, computers are still stuck at this limit?
    Even more insane, how are they stuck at this limit by the 32nd century?
    That's just the brick wall barrier for computers?
    Yottabyte for hard-drives, 1000 Yottabyes for buffers, and that's it?
    Then what are all the upgrades in Lower Decks and Picard accomplishing?
    Just processing speed?
    Or, is it a big computer industry chip engineering conspiracy, that they plant defects, and fix the defects, and plant new ones to keep their jobs?
    If so...impressive they've kept it going up to the 32nd century.
    Or! They might not even know they're doing it, like how Geordi didn't know all the fudging Scotty put in the tech manuals.

    Damn, that was long.
    It's faster to think than say.