The all purpose J.K. Rowling thread

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  1. Uncle Albert

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    It's still not for me. Never read the books, saw maybe half of the first movie, not buying any game.
  2. Uncle Albert

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    My instincts are actually telling me you have the posture of a wet french fry while you type shit like that.
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  3. 14thDoctor

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  4. Tererune

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    This goes back to the lie that in some way the government has made some saort of criminal act out of not using the pronouns or dead naming someone. Consequences for being a dick in moderated spaces are not about rights from thew government. If you dead name someone at work in a professional environment you are representing a business and they can fire your useless ass. If you misgender someone online and get banned or disliked, that is the consequence of your actions. If you are in a school bullying other kids because you cannot take how they are dressed then you go to another school and get suspended or expelled.

    UA is having a meltdown because he does not want his shit to stink and thinks everyone needs to follow him and regard him as the sole judge of right and wrong. This is JK's thing also. She is the least cancelled person ever. However, she feels we all must play the video game based on her character or else you are raping her and UA. Existing as a person is not some insult to JK or UA. It has nothing to do with either of them. No one becomes trans to rape TERFs, young adult fantasy authors, or some rando loser on WF.

    Suck it the fuck up and quit your bitching. I was not sitting around at 5 years old thinking in forty+ years I was going to meet UA or that some daffy english twat was going to write a book so I must be female. You just are not even close to that important.
  5. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Maybe you arte onto something. There are a ton of furries who identify as wolves. UA's entire existencxe is about trying to identify as some sort of masculine predator because he clearly feels like he should be whiule he is actually some ginger lump of useless flesh. Maybe the reason he hates trans people so much is they can actually be closer to what they identify as while he just hets his ass kicked every day he goes outsaide, and his cock sucker is @Jenee.
  6. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Of fucking course.

    The right in question is equality (including equal protection) under the law. If a JUDGE deadnames me in court, that violates me. If a teacher does so in class, if I've instructed otherwise, same (because I sit under their authority in class)

    If some random asshole on the street does - shit happens, there's no right to be protected from random assholes.


    ETA: when exactly have I "bitched about pronouns and deadnaming" on here? I may have replied to some fool brining it up but rebutting a claim isn'y "bitching"

    Not saying it's impossible but I don't remember it - I think you're just asking me to accept responsibility for every trans trope you ever read about online.
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  7. Nova

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    random unrelated thought:

    One of my best Twitter follows has a pair of huskies that she refers to as "derpwolves" and it cracks me up every time she does
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  8. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    e do have to remember it is ok to complain and state reality. UA is bitching because he might have to call someone by their legal name, and not the name he decides they should have. That is the horror that he has to deal with. Calling people by the name they have rather than the name he wants to so that he can feel great about harming them.

    It is one thing if you have known someone for a while and you have to adjust that solid association in your brain. However, if the only way you knew a person is by the name they chose ands you go do research to find out the name they used to have just so you can use that, then you are being a dick, and there never was any trouble for you referring to that person by the name they gave you.

    UA and his trump proud boy buddies just want to insult someone by using their dead name.
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  9. Uncle Albert

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    You have the right to call yourself whatever you want.

    You do NOT have the right to coerce anyone to play along. This is why it is unacceptable for teachers to bring gender politics into the classroom: abusing their authority to coerce behavior towards one side of a subject that is 100% OPINION.
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  10. Jenee

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    So, if a child is enrolled in kindergarten as a boy (first, why do we need to register as a boy or a girl, but whatever), then by 1st grade they are displaying signs of preferring "girl things", is it wrong for the teacher to "humor" the child by accepting their preference for girl things? Or should that teacher berate the child into behaving like a boy?
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    Humouring children or respecting their wishes is "gender politics," and that's bad. Berating a child into conforming to whatever UA is used to is politically neutral and completely fine. :bergman:
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    Pretty sure UA is not the source of the current societal idea of what a boy is and what he should be.
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    He's certainly not an example of it.
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  14. Uncle Albert

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    The teacher should consult the parents, comply with THEIR wishes, and do nothing else to influence the situation.
  15. Uncle Albert

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    Quite right. Society wants men silently, passively subservient to collective will.
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  16. Jenee

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    if the child comes to class in a dress, can the teacher assume the parent was aware of the dress prior to leaving for class? Again, we're talking about a 6/7 year old. not a teen who could have changed at a friend's house or in the bathroom.
  17. Uncle Albert

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    That's a bit different from calling them by a new name and sending them to the girls bathroom.
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    I would think, if a parent was "in tune" with their child, and they knew their child was experiencing gender dysphoria, then it's the parent's responsibility to let the teacher know.

    But, what you are implying is happening - that teachers are just ... I don't know .. making shit up and telling a student they really are a different gender when the child shows no sign of gender dysphoria, then I don't beleive that is happening or has ever happened.
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  19. matthunter

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    Bollocks.

    It just wants them to know they're being cunts when they are, in fact, being cunts.

    Some men have an issue with that, having had past society cover up the stink of their shit for them for so long.
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    In the scenario where the parents don't approve of their kids requests, UA considers the parents the final authority and has no problem with teachers being coerced into obeying them.

    In a scenario where they parents do approve, then the teachers are being coerced into going along with something that's made up and it's completely unacceptable.

    Nothing inconsistent about that at all. :bergman:
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  21. Diacanu

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    And if the parents AND teachers approve, then any one bigot parent can fuck up the whole thing, because god forbid that one bigot get their panties in a knot.
    And if you had a magical school that ALL the parents and teachers approved, then it's society that's broken.
    UA will always find a way to go into a tizzy over trans identity existing.
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  22. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    If you "stick it to the man" you're a filthy criminal scumbag that needs to be beaten into hamburger by solider-cops.
    If you're a good little boy that doesn't piss off the soldier-cops, you're passively subservient.
    So what's the happy medium here?
    Obey the law, but act like a prick on the internet?
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    Forgetting about the last statement as it's unfounded, lets look at the other two scenarios; which, I believe is the real issue.

    We have people who are genuinely interested in their child(ren) and do whatever they can for their child - including talking to a teacher and principal and letting them know their child is currently experiencing gender dysphoria and, for now, we're letting this play out. So, please call him/her this/that. or whatever.

    The problem then comes when someone else's kid goes home and and tells their parent that there's a child in school who is a boy, but the teacher is calling them by a girl's name!

    Then that parent gets on facebook and lies and blows shit way out of proportion until the fucking state steps in for political reasons and make it an issue that teachers are calling boys girls and girls boys and that should be happening and we need to make a law about it.
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    They are not equal perspectives. The parents retain veto power.
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    So if the parents show up and say "Billy is called Suzie now, and you as the teacher will respect this," the teacher must comply without complaint? :chris:
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  26. Uncle Albert

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    Or resign, yes.
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    Then

    Some other kid goes home and and tells their parent that there's a child in school who is a boy, but the teacher is calling them by a girl's name!

    Then that parent gets on facebook and blows shit way out of proportion until the fucking state steps in for political reasons and make it an issue that teachers are calling boys girls and girls boys and that should be happening and we need to make a law about it. and it becomes a non-argument on Wordforge.
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    See, this is the stupid. Here is the essence of the social contract of identity and consequences being thrown out because UA thinks a game is going on. If I change my legal name and gender that is a legal thing. I have to go through court and I have to establish myself. UA thinks these things are some sort of roleplaying game. If I change my name to sally and then go to where UA works and he starts calling me bill and demands I use my dead name bill because he is not going to play pretend, it is him who is playing pretend because the law says my name is sally and I am a female. UA claims that is playing pretend, but this is legal process of identity. I am allowed to do that, just as UA is allowed to change his name and gender if he likes. Non-trans people change their names all the time. Now UA wants to strip trans people of that recognition while recognizing it for others.

    It is not a game when you do it legally. If UA and the Nazi party want to make it so no one can change their name then they have to make that iron clad for everyone because it is not a game, it is legal and real life. Despite being told a number of times that this is an actual legal process available to everyone, UA is treating it like changing your name on WF.
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    It is good to see the @Jenee cum dumpster defending her abuser again.
  30. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Fun facts:
    Uncle Albert isn't an uncle, isn't an Albert, and he doesn't look like Robotman.
    And he's not fun like Robotman.

    And for someone who resents play-pretend outside of a social media/gaming context, he says not a goddamned thing about Gravy Seals.
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