This letter made me think of tardforge.

Dinner · Mar 31, 2010

It's like he wrote it with this place in mind.

An open letter to conservatives
March 22, 2010, 3:16PM

Dear Conservative Americans,

The years have not been kind to you. I grew up in a profoundly Republican home, so I can remember when you wore a very different face than the one we see now. You've lost me and you've lost most of America. Because I believe having responsible choices is important to democracy, I'd like to give you some advice and an invitation.

First, the invitation: Come back to us.

Now the advice. You're going to have to come up with a platform that isn't built on a foundation of cowardice: fear of people with colors, religions, cultures and sex lives that differ from your own; fear of reform in banking, health care, energy; fantasy fears of America being transformed into an Islamic nation, into social/commun/fasc-ism, into a disarmed populace put in internment camps; and more. But you have work to do even before you take on that task.

Your party -- the GOP -- and the conservative end of the American political spectrum have become irresponsible and irrational. Worse, it's tolerating, promoting and celebrating prejudice and hatred. Let me provide some examples -- by no means an exhaustive list -- of where the Right as gotten itself stuck in a swamp of hypocrisy, hyperbole, historical inaccuracy and hatred.

If you're going to regain your stature as a party of rational, responsible people, you'll have to start by draining this swamp:

Hypocrisy

You can't flip out -- and threaten impeachment - when Dems use a parliamentary procedure (deem and pass) that you used repeatedly (more than 35 times in just one session and more than 100 times in all!), that's centuries old and which the courts have supported. Especially when your leaders admit it all.

You can't vote and scream against the stimulus package and then take credit for the good it's done in your own district (happily handing out enormous checks representing money that you voted against, is especially ugly) -- 114 of you (at last count) did just that -- and it's even worse when you secretly beg for more.

You can't fight against your own ideas just because the Dem president endorses your proposal.

You can't call for a pay-as-you-go policy, and then vote against your own ideas.

Are they "unlawful enemy combatants" or are they "prisoners of war" at Gitmo? You can't have it both ways.

You can't carry on about the evils of government spending when your family has accepted more than a quarter-million dollars in government handouts.

You can't refuse to go to a scheduled meeting, to which you were invited, and then blame the Dems because they didn't meet with you.

You can't rail against using teleprompters while using teleprompters. Repeatedly.

You can't rail against the bank bailouts when you supported them as they were happening.

You can't be for immigration reform, then against it .

You can't enjoy socialized medicine while condemning it.

You can't flip out when the black president puts his feet on the presidential desk when you were silent about white presidents doing the same. Bush. Ford.

You can't complain that the president hasn't closed Gitmo yet when you've campaigned to keep Gitmo open.

You can't flip out when the black president bows to foreign dignitaries, as appropriate for their culture, when you were silent when the white presidents did the same. Bush. Nixon. Ike. You didn't even make a peep when Bush held hands and kissed leaders of countries that are not on "kissing terms" with the US.

You can't complain that the undies bomber was read his Miranda rights under Obama when the shoe bomber was read his Miranda rights under Bush and you remained silent. (And, no, Newt -- the shoe bomber was not a US citizen either, so there is no difference.)

You can't attack the Dem president for not personally* publicly condemning a terrorist event for 72 hours when you said nothing about the Rep president waiting 6 days in an eerily similar incident (and, even then, he didn't issue any condemnation). *Obama administration did the day of the event.

You can't throw a hissy fit, sound alarms and cry that Obama freed Gitmo prisoners who later helped plan the Christmas Day undie bombing, when -- in fact -- only one former Gitmo detainee, released by Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, helped to plan the failed attack.

You can't condemn blaming the Republican president for an attempted terror attack on his watch, then blame the Dem president for an attempted terror attack on his.

You can't mount a boycott against singers who say they're ashamed of the president for starting a war, but remain silent when another singer says he's ashamed of the president and falsely calls him a Maoist who makes him want to throw up and says he ought to be in jail.

You can't cry that the health care bill is too long, then cry that it's too short.

You can't support the individual mandate for health insurance, then call it unconstitutional when Dems propose it and campaign against your own ideas.

You can't demand television coverage, then whine about it when you get it. Repeatedly.

You can't praise criminal trials in US courts for terror suspects under a Rep president, then call it "treasonous" under a Dem president.

You can't propose ideas to create jobs, and then work against them when the Dems put your ideas in a bill.

You can't be both pro-choice and anti-choice.

You can't damn someone for failing to pay $900 in taxes when you've paid nearly $20,000 in IRS fines.

You can't condemn criticizing the president when US troops are in harms way, then attack the president when US troops are in harms way , the only difference being the president's party affiliation (and, by the way, armed conflict does NOT remove our right and our duty as Americans to speak up).

You can't be both for cap-and-trade policy and against it.

You can't vote to block debate on a bill, then bemoan the lack of 'open debate'.

If you push anti-gay legislation and make anti-gay speeches, you should probably take a pass on having gay sex, regardless of whether it's 2004 or 2010. This is true, too, if you're taking GOP money and giving anti-gay rants on CNN. Taking right-wing money and GOP favors to write anti-gay stories for news sites while working as a gay prostitute, doubles down on both the hypocrisy and the prostitution. This is especially true if you claim your anti-gay stand is God's stand, too.

When you chair the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, you can't send sexy emails to 16-year-old boys (illegal anyway, but you made it hypocritical as well).

You can't criticize Dems for not doing something you didn't do while you held power over the past 16 years, especially when the Dems have done more in one year than you did in 16.

You can't decry "name calling" when you've been the most consistent and outrageous at it. And the most vile.

You can't spend more than 40 years hating, cutting and trying to kill Medicare, and then pretend to be the defenders of Medicare

You can't praise the Congressional Budget Office when it's analysis produces numbers that fit your political agenda, then claim it's unreliable when it comes up with numbers that don't.

You can't vote for X under a Republican president, then vote against X under a Democratic president. Either you support X or you don't. And it makes it worse when you change your position merely for the sake obstructionism.

You can't call a reconciliation out of bounds when you used it repeatedly.

You can't spend taxpayer money on ads against spending taxpayer money.

You can't condemn individual health insurance mandates in a Dem bill, when the mandates were your idea.

You can't demand everyone listen to the generals when they say what fits your agenda, and then ignore them when they don't.

You can't whine that it's unfair when people accuse you of exploiting racism for political gain, when your party's former leader admits you've been doing it for decades.

You can't portray yourself as fighting terrorists when you openly and passionately support terrorists.

You can't complain about a lack of bipartisanship when you've routinely obstructed for the sake of political gain -- threatening to filibuster at least 100 pieces of legislation in one session, far more than any other since the procedural tactic was invented -- and admitted it. Some admissions are unintentional, others are made proudly. This is especially true when the bill is the result of decades of compromise between the two parties and is filled with your own ideas.

You can't question the loyalty of Department of Justice lawyers when you didn't object when your own Republican president appointed them.

You can't preach and try to legislate "Family Values" when you: take nude hot tub dips with teenagers (and pay them hush money); cheat on your wife with a secret lover and lie about it to the world; cheat with a staffer's wife (and pay them off with a new job); pay hookers for sex while wearing a diaper and cheating on your wife; or just enjoying an old fashioned non-kinky cheating on your wife; try to have gay sex in a public toilet; authorize the rape of children in Iraqi prisons to coerce their parents into providing information; seek, look at or have sex with children; replace a guy who cheats on his wife with a guy who cheats on his pregnant wife with his wife's mother;

Hyperbole

You really need to disassociate with those among you who:

* assert that people making a quarter-million dollars a year can barely make ends meet or that $1 million "isn't a lot of money";
* say that "Comrade" Obama is a "Bolshevik" who is "taking cues from Lenin";
* ignore the many times your buddies use a term that offends you and complain only when a Dem says it;
* liken political opponents to murderers, rapists, and "this Muslim guy" that "offed his wife's head" or call then "un-American";
* say Obama "wants his plan to fail...so that he can make the case for bank nationalization and vindicate his dream of a socialist economy";
* equate putting the good of the people ahead of your personal fortunes with terrorism;
* smear an entire major religion with the actions of a few fanatics;
* say that the president wants to "annihilate us";
* compare health care reform with the bombing of Pearl Harbor, a Bolshevik plot the attack on 9/11,or reviving the ghosts of communist dictators (update: it's also not Armageddon);
* equate our disease-fighting stem cell research with "what the Nazis did";
* call a bill passed by the majority of both houses of Congress, by members of Congress each elected by a majority in their districts, an unconscionable abuse of power, a violation of the presidential oath or "the end of representative government";
* shout "baby killer" at a member of Congress on the floor of the House, especially one who so fought against abortion rights that he nearly killed health care reform (in fact, a little decorum, a little respect for our national institutions and the people and the values they represent, would be refreshing -- cut out the shouting, the swearing and the obscenities);
* prove your machismo by claiming your going to "crash a party" to which you're officially invited;
* claim that Obama is pushing America's "submission to Shariah";
* question the patriotism of people upholding cherished American values and the rule of law;
* claim the president is making us less safe without a hint of evidence;
* call a majority vote the "tyranny of the minority," even if you meant to call it tyranny of the majority -- it's democracy, not tyranny;
* call the president's support of a criminal trial for a terror suspect "treasonous" (especially when you supported the same thing when the president shared your party);
* call the Pope the anti-Christ;
* assert that the constitutionally mandated census is an attempt to enslave us;
* accuse opponents of being backed by Arab slave-drivers or of being drunk and suicidal;
* equate family planning with eugenics or Nazism;
* accuse the president of changing the missile defense program's logo to match his campaign logo and reflect what you say is his secret Muslim identity;
* accuse political opponents of being totalitarians, socialists, communists, fascists, Marxists; terrorist sympathizers, McCarthy-like, Nazis or drug pushers; and
* advocate a traitorous act like secession, violent revolution , military coup or civil war (just so we're clear: sedition is a bad thing).

History

If you're going to use words like socialism, communism and fascism, you must have at least a basic understanding of what those words mean (hint: they're NOT synonymous!)

You can't cut a leading Founding Father out the history books because you've decided you don't like his ideas.

You cant repeatedly assert that the president refuses to say the word "terrorism" or say we're at war with terror when we have an awful lot of videotape showing him repeatedly assailing terrorism and using those exact words.

If you're going to invoke the names of historical figures, it does not serve you well to whitewash them. Especially this one.

You can't just pretend historical events didn't happen in an effort to make a political opponent look dishonest or to make your side look better. Especially these events. (And, no, repeating it doesn't make it better.)

You can't say things that are simply and demonstrably false: health care reform will not push people out of their private insurance and into a government-run program ; health care reform (which contains a good many of your ideas and very few from the Left) is a long way from "socialist utopia"; health care reform is not "reparations"; nor does health care reform create "death panels".

Hatred

You have to condemn those among you who:

* call members of Congress n*gger and f*ggot;
* elected leaders who say "I'm a proud racist";
* state that America has been built by white people;
* say that poor people are poor because they're rotten people, call them "parasitic garbage" or say they shouldn't be allowed to vote;
* call women bitches and prostitutes just because you don't like their politics ( re - pea -ted - ly );
* assert that the women who are serving our nation in uniform are hookers;
* mock and celebrate the death of a grandmother because you disagree with her son's politics;
* declare that those who disagree with you are shown by that disagreement to be not just "Marxist radicals" but also monsters and a deadly disease killing the nation (this would fit in the hyperbole and history categories, too);
* joke about blindness;
* advocate euthanizing the wife of your political opponent;
* taunt people with incurable, life-threatening diseases -- especially if you do it on a syndicated broadcast;
* equate gay love with bestiality -- involving horses or dogs or turtles or ducks -- or polygamy, child molestation, pedophilia;
* casually assume that only white males look "like a real American";
* assert presidential power to authorize torture, torture a child by having his testicles crushed in front of his parents to get them to talk, order the massacre of a civilian village and launch a nuclear attack without the consent of Congress;
* attack children whose mothers have died;
* call people racists without producing a shred of evidence that they've said or done something that would even smell like racism -- same for invoking racially charged "dog whistle" words (repeatedly);
* condemn the one thing that every major religion agrees on;
* complain that we no longer employ the tactics we once used to disenfranchise millions of Americans because of their race;
* blame the victims of natural disasters and terrorist attacks for their suffering and losses;
* celebrate violence , joke about violence, prepare for violence or use violent imagery, "fun" political violence, hints of violence, threats of violence (this one is rather explicit), suggestions of violence or actual violence (and, really, suggesting anal rape with a hot piece of metal is beyond the pale); and
* incite insurrection telling people to get their guns ready for a "bloody battle" with the president of the United States.

Oh, and I'm not alone: One of your most respected and decorated leaders agrees with me.

So, dear conservatives, get to work. Drain the swamp of the conspiracy nuts, the bald-faced liars undeterred by demonstrable facts, the overt hypocrisy and the hatred. Then offer us a calm, responsible, grownup agenda based on your values and your vision for America. We may or may not agree with your values and vision, but we'll certainly welcome you back to the American mainstream with open arms. We need you.

(Anticipating your initial response: No there is nothing that even comes close to this level of wingnuttery on the American Left.)

Written by Russell King
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http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.co.../03/an-open-letter-to-conservative.php?ref=mp

The letter is also massively annotated with links to every single point.

Uncle Albert · Mar 31, 2010

fear of reform in banking, health care, energy
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That string of words is a sign of a smug leftist douchegargler, to 99.99% certainty.

"Reform" my dying, pasty white ass.

Paladin · Mar 31, 2010

Yawn.

Tuttle · Mar 31, 2010

Idle Pastime: In Off Hours, Truckers Pick Up Stitching

With Less to Haul, Drivers Try New Hobbies; Quilting in the Cab

WALCOTT, Iowa—Semi driver Dave White happily sequestered himself in his rig at a truck stop on a rural stretch of Interstate 80, waiting to pick up his next haul: 45,000 pounds of Spam. He used to loathe the downtime in his job.

Then, he bought a sewing machine.

Since last year, when the economy left drivers with fewer hauls, Mr. White, a 6-foot-2, 240-pound ex-Air Force mechanic with a bushy mustache, has hunkered down inside his truck in his many off hours, making quilts from patterns with names like "Meet Me In Paris." When he's not sewing, he's daydreaming about it, he said as he ran a square of yellow cotton with little violets through his machine. "Oh, there's many a time you're just going down the road at O-dark-thirty in the morning and you just start thinking about a particular pattern."

Some truckers are finding themselves with more spare time on the road. Loads of goods delivered by truckers fell 15% in 2009, to 170 million loads, the largest drop in modern history, said Bob Costello, chief economist for the American Trucking Associations. That came on top of a slow downswing in hauls because of what the industry laments as "miniaturization" of goods: It takes less space to move flat-screen TVs and iPods than their clunkier predecessors.

With declining freight, truckers who drive hundreds of miles to make a delivery may not immediately have a load lined up for the return trip. So they bide time at truck stops, where they can shower, dine and sleep in their rigs. A couple of years ago, a driver might drop off a load and pick up a new one in two hours; now the wait can be two days, said Mr. Costello.

Though evidence is anecdotal, industry groups and trucking-company owners say the increase in spare time has spawned more hobbies. "We've got guys who are into opera, photography, skydiving," said Norita Taylor, spokeswoman for the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers' Association, a truckers' group.

Mr. White's employer, Iowa-based Don Hummer Trucking Corp., last year started a loosely organized "sewing club," and encourages drivers who are nimble with a needle to show off their handiwork at headquarters. "We want them to pass the time to make themselves happy, rather than get frustrated waiting," said Dena Boelter, Hummer's human-resources manager, an avid sewer who calls the hobby a great stress reliever that can be done almost anywhere.

Kevin Abraham-Banks, a 37-year-old trucker with a shaved head and dragon tattoos, passes time at truck stops with his cocoa and knitting.

Mr. Banks, who lives in Sioux Falls, S.D., and hauls romaine lettuce between California and the Midwest, learned to knit last year after load-volumes slowed. Creating something tangible beats sitting around the truck stop "talking about who has a bigger radio," he said. He's finished a scarf and socks, and is working on a sweater for his wife.

"The fact that you can take strands of thread and basically make something out of it, that's awesome I think," he said. "It's pretty cool stuff, man."

Still, trucking can be a macho world that doesn't feel conducive to knitting or sewing. Some 95% of truckers are men, said the ATA. At the Iowa-80 Truck Stop, whose signs bill it as the "World's Largest Truckstop," a top request at the theater is for "Smokey and the Bandit" and the on-site dentist, Thomas Roemer, often sees drivers only after they've tried to yank their teeth out themselves. Crafting with fabric and yarn is "nothing I would do—my mom does that," said Mark Sanchez, 47, a long-haul trucker.

Thomas McConnaughy, a married grandfather from Hemet, Calif., hauls cereal, reads his Bible, plays Sudoku, and talks trout fishing at truck stops. He doesn't let on to other drivers that he keeps 15 coils of yarn in his cab and makes what he describes as "really cute slippers."

"In the truck stops, it's usually a bunch of guys watching football," he said. "If I sat down with my knitting, I think there would be some funny remarks."

Mr. White, the quilter, who is 53, came to his new passion last summer after feeling he was wasting time "waiting on freight."

He drove 2,600 miles a week on average in 2009, versus 3,200 in 2008, even though he spent the same amount of time—about three weeks at a stretch—on the road.

He struggled to find a hobby, having burned out on reading. He tried carting along a remote-controlled helicopter, but it kept falling on him from a shelf in the truck. His wife, Dee, an accountant at their home in Colorado Springs, Colo., is a quilter and suggested he try it. By August, they had outfitted his truck's sleeper cabin with a $179 sewing machine, supplies, and a starter's pattern. "Boy, let me tell you, I created a monster," she said.

Since then, Mr. White has made seven quilt tops, which are finished with a filling and backing between trips. He spends three hours a day on his hobby, sitting on his bed, with his sewing machine next to his mini-fridge. Flowered "project boxes" sit next to neat stacks of blue jeans and baseball caps. Quilting, he said, "gives you a little bit of ownership. You've actually accomplished something with your time off."

He pulled over once to visit the National Quilt Museum in Paducah, Ky., and if time allows, visits fabric stores in towns he rolls through.

In his truck, he showed a quilt with illustrations of fruit, and emphasized the importance of strategically placing quilt blocks so that "you don't get three lemons in a row or two plums in a row."

His blue eyes widened behind his glasses as he moved to the topic of thread. "There is a variegated thread that goes purple to white then back to purple," he said. "Oh! Just beautiful."
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Zombie · Mar 31, 2010

"We've got guys who are into opera, photography, skydiving," said Norita Taylor, spokeswoman for the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers' Association, a truckers' group.

I know they are human like everyone else but there is something humorous in truck drivers going to opera and sky diving.....

Caboose · Mar 31, 2010

[action=Caboose]unzips his fly, takes out his dick and shakes it in the direction of the OP after a tldr moment.[/action]

Lanzman · Mar 31, 2010

Excessively dismissive, some of you. Some of the items in the letter are valid.

But, then again, you could flip a couple of words and set this during the Bush administration, directed against liberals, it would work just as well.

Uncle Albert · Mar 31, 2010

Lanzman said: ↑

Excessively dismissive, some of you. Some of the items in the letter are valid.
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Without arguing the validity, nobody who wants me to take them seriously will make such a shrill, condescending presentation of their "point."

Tuttle · Mar 31, 2010

Lanzman said: ↑

Some of the items in the letter are valid.

But, then again, you could flip a couple of words and set this during the Bush administration, directed against liberals, it would work just as well.
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I almost replied by taking a part and switching words to make that point.

But then it struck me that if true, if left could be switched with right, the meaning is hollow, and the point of the OP isn't valid, because the whole spirit is 'right is wrong,' which it turns out is wrong.

mburtonk · Mar 31, 2010

This sounds awfully like another letter that the majority here seems to think was awfully good...

In all seriousness, I'm sick of people trying to demonize their opponents. So there are bad Republicans--I'm sure there are good Republicans. So there are bad Democrats--I'm sure there are good Democrats. Let's focus on specifics and locality--how about all the people writing these letters deal with fixing things at the local level rather than trying to gullify everyone into following a particular emotion (disgust, rage, what have you) to an end that the writer is defining? As it goes, "all politics is local." So go bug your representatives, run against your city government, write meaningful letters to your local newspaper, actually talk to those people you don't agree with and tell them why--just quit sending out these stupid letters that are so full of accusations as to be meaningful. Pick a point and stick with it. Is it so hard to ask?

Nova · Mar 31, 2010

Oerdin said: ↑

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Written by Russell King
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The letter is also massively annotated with links to every single point.[/QUOTE]

A. TL;DR
B. Who the fuck is Russel King and why the hell sould I give a damn what he thinks?
C. "Massively annotated" to the opinions of other left wing holier-than-thou assholes?
So?

Azure · Mar 31, 2010

I doubt there are any good Republicans.

Most Republicans, like Democrats are deluded morons.

Says a lot about the population as a whole.

Will Power · Mar 31, 2010

TL;DR.............yet.

Courtesy bump.

Muad Dib · Mar 31, 2010

Captain X · Apr 1, 2010

Asyncritus · Apr 1, 2010

mburtonk said: ↑

This sounds awfully like another letter that the majority here seems to think was awfully good...
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Interesting how perception colors reality.

In the thread to which you refer, 22 posters (out of 100-150 active posters, hardly a large enough sample to determine what "the majority here" think in any case) participated:

Four of them (three right-leaning and one moderate) said in one way or another that the letter was good.

One right-leaning poster, without ever expressing agreement with it, argued strongly that the NYT was biased for not published it.

Eight more or less right-leaning posters participated in the thread, without at any time or in any way giving the slightest credibility to the letter.

One more or less right-leaning poster (myself) participated in the thread and explicitely disagreed with the letter.

Eight left-leaning posters participated in the thread, all expressing disapproval of the letter in one way or another.

Conclusions:

Saying a majority of WF agrees with it when it is actually 4 or 5 out of over 100 is nonsense (not even close to a majority of the board).

Saying a majority of WF agrees with it when it was only 4 or 5 out of the 22 who participated in the thread is nonsense (less than a quarter of the posters in the thread does not make a majority).

Saying a majority of WF agrees with it when only 4 or 5 out of 14 right-leaning posters in the thread is nonsense (less than half even of the right-leaning posters expressed approval).

This kind of generalizations ("The majority here seems to think that letter was awfully good" when it was four or five people) is a good illustration of how perception colors reality.

And yes, I saw your smilie and the "seriously" at the beginning of the next paragraph. But you wouldn't have posted that as a "joke" if you didn't think there was at least some truth to it.

You probably ought to avoid making sweeping generalzations that don't measure up to the facts. Kind of like the guy who wrote that letter...

Dinner · Nov 30, 2010

The Op is more true then ever.

Clyde · Nov 30, 2010

Oerdin said: ↑

The Op is more true then ever.
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Would you mind summing up the bits you find truer?

Forbin · Nov 30, 2010

Oerdin said: ↑

It's like he wrote it with this place in mind.
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If by that you mean WAY too long to even start reading while skimming the board first thing in the morning at work, yes.

Jenee · Nov 30, 2010

Forbin said: ↑

[...]while skimming the board first thing in the morning at work, yes.
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Glad I'm not the only one who does this ...

KIRK1ADM · Nov 30, 2010

Oerdin, you think of yourself all the time. It's the narcissist in you. You didn't need a letter like that to make you think of yourself.

Ramen · Nov 30, 2010

I had myself a wank before I got out of bed this morning.

Thought ya'll would 'preciate that.

skinofevil · Nov 30, 2010

Skin cut loose a thunderfart that'd peel the pancake makeup off Wordy's face.

Talkahuano · Nov 30, 2010

Ugh, another piece of hateful tripe. Again we have a letter that makes some valid points (some of the hatred spewed around here is sickening and low), but the way the article starts is just...
How am I supposed to take them seriously if they start by saying, pretty much, "I DO NOT AGREE WITH ANY OF YOU"?

Jamey Whistler · Nov 30, 2010

Talkahuano said: ↑

How am I supposed to take them seriously if they start by saying, pretty much, "I DO NOT AGREE WITH ANY OF YOU"?
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There isn't anything hateful about it. It's confrontational, but there's not one bit of real hate in it.

And if they really have their ducks in line, and their arguments are sound, there's nothing at all wrong with saying "I do not agree with any of you". It might be myopic. It might be narrow and closed minded. But it really isn't hateful.

Paladin · Nov 30, 2010

Herewith, my response:

An open letter to liberals
November 30, 2010, 10:00AM

Dear Liberal Americans,

The election has not been kind to you. I grew up in a profoundly Republican series of decades, so I can remember all the years you were out of power and am accustomed to it. You've lost America after two short years just like you always do when America sees that your 'ideas' are just variations on a single tired theme: bigger, more intrusive government. I believe having responsible choices is important to this republic, so I'd like to offer you an invitation.

Go fuck yourselves.
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BearTM · Nov 30, 2010

Zombie said: ↑

"We've got guys who are into opera, photography, skydiving," said Norita Taylor, spokeswoman for the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers' Association, a truckers' group.

I know they are human like everyone else but there is something humorous in truck drivers going to opera and sky diving.....
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Jenee · Nov 30, 2010

Paladin said: ↑

Herewith, my response:

An open letter to liberals
November 30, 2010, 10:00AM

Dear Liberal Americans,

The election has not been kind to you. I grew up in a profoundly Republican series of decades, so I can remember all the years you were out of power and am accustomed to it. You've lost America after two short years just like you always do when America sees that your 'ideas' are just variations on a single tired theme: bigger, more intrusive government. I believe having responsible choices is important to this republic, so I'd like to offer you an invitation.

Go fuck yourselves.
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An open letter to Go Fuck Yourselves
November 30, 2010 12:00 PM

Dear Go Fuck Yourselves,

Stop fooling yourselves. The election hasn't been kind to anyone except politiciians. And, while the majority of presidents of recent decades have been Republican, the majority of the Legislative Branch has been Democratic. So, while the legislature has been passing laws curtailing freedoms while greenlighting out of control pork, the Executive Branch authorized it. Only once in the past 4 decades has a president taken a stand and said "No" to a budget he didn't approve and that was a Democratic President. And, now, since you've forced me to say something positive about a scumbag jackass, I invite you to ... engage in your namesakes.

Sincerely
A Liberal American
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Volpone · Nov 30, 2010

The stupid, it hurts.

Demiurge · Nov 30, 2010

From the comments on the original thread on the letter back in March of 10:

I couldn't have said it better. I'm all for partisanship. The American people didn't send Obama and a record number of Democrats to Washington to let the party that steered this country off a cliff share the steering wheel despite the fact that that's precisely what Democrats are doing with their illogical devotion to "bipartisanship" (see: health care bill with no public option).

The American people sent the Democrats to Washington to change direction entirely, which is a mandate for Democratic partisanship. If only the Democrats would accept their mandate, we'd all be a lot better off including the conservatives that love to hate the Democrats.
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Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

Zombie dead and loving it

Caboose ....

Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

mburtonk mburtonkulous

Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

Azure I could kick your ass

Will Power If you only knew the irony of my name.

Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

Captain X Responsible cookie control

Asyncritus Expert on everything

Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

Clyde Orange

Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

Jenee Driver 8

KIRK1ADM Bored Being

Ramen Banned

skinofevil Fresh Meat

Talkahuano Second Flame Lieutenant

Jamey Whistler Éminence grise

Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

Jenee Driver 8

Volpone Zombie Hunter

Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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This letter made me think of tardforge.

Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

Zombie dead and loving it

Caboose ....

Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

mburtonk mburtonkulous

Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

Azure I could kick your ass

Will Power If you only knew the irony of my name.

Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

Captain X Responsible cookie control

Asyncritus Expert on everything

Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

Clyde Orange

Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

Jenee Driver 8

KIRK1ADM Bored Being

Ramen Banned

skinofevil Fresh Meat

Talkahuano Second Flame Lieutenant

Jamey Whistler Éminence grise

Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

Jenee Driver 8

Volpone Zombie Hunter

Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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