Keeping "kids" on your insurance until they are 26!?! WTF

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  1. Megatron

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    One in a million...
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  2. Tamar Garish

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    Bollocks. :jayzus:

    Any student who is dedicated will do well in college whether they pay for it or are subsidized.

    I suspect that the students who work for it are far more motivated to not waste the opportunity as it was their own hard work they would be throwing away as opposed to taxpayers or their parents.

    And stress and the symptoms of stress will effect certain personalities regardless of who pays as well.
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  3. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    Sorry, but that is the way the ball rolls.

    I have no problem with parents that help pay for post secondary. I would encourage it.

    But at some point you're just going to have to pay your own way.

    I do know that when I get married and have kids, from the day they're born there will be money laid away to help them pay through college. If I'm rich, they'll have more money. But I'm not going to pay everything.
  4. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    I'm usually on your side politically, at least in the same general direction - and I hear similar things from people I normally agree with most of the time

    BUT

    As oft-repeated as it is - it's horseshit.

    And don't tell me i consider myself "too good" for anything - I spent three months working 10 hours a day at $5 an hour cleaning ferret shit out of over sixty cages and getting regularly bit for my efforts and was glad to have income. The only jobs I don't apply for are those I'm not able to do.

    And there are plenty more like me who are unemployed.

    Yes, there are people that get jobs easily - I know a girl who was telling me just yesterday she got offered two different jobs in one day. Right place right time.

    But that doesn't prove jobs are easy to find. Hell even the job service office has 2 jobs that are not commission-only sales - and both are for nurses.

    Last fall a local gas station had two part time employees quit. part time jobs at minimum wage....and got almost 300 applications within less than a week.

    I'm SO not impressed with the smug "if you are not working it's because you are a lazy bastard" bullshit.
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  5. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Please tell me that it's 45K after taxes. All that schooling for only 45K doesn't sound like a good return in your investment.

    Or maybe I'm a little out of touch with the working world outside my contracting/military bubble. The lowest paid guy on my crew makes about 50K (before taxes) and he's an air-conditioning technician.
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  6. mburtonk

    mburtonk mburtonkulous

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    TKO, do what you want to do. If you hold out for what everyone else thinks you should get paid, you'll never get to do anything.
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  7. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    You have a point. If you really love your job, money isn't the prime motivator.
    If you are in a position to make less without undue financial hardship, do it.

    If I chased money I'd take a job in Iraq and be well into six figures...but I hate being away from my family.
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  8. polarslam

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    Also qualifies people for more than call centre work that a monkey can do.
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  9. The Prussian Mafia

    The Prussian Mafia Sex crazed nympho

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    Agreed. My parents paid for my first 2 years of college but I had to take on the costs of the last 2.5 years myself. My last year I had classes starting at 7:30am through the afternoon with studying and labs in between that time then I had work at 3:30pm to midnight. Get to bed at 1am and start the whole day over again waking up at 5am. Being a vain blonde young man, I went to a tanning booth. It was great because I was able to power nap during the day for 20 mins.

    It was brutal but I came out of the experience knowing what it is to have blood sweat and tears to achieve your goals. I've had no problem keeping jobs and have had a successful career. The only emotional problems I've had is that I'm a complete and total selfish asshole. But some people consider that a quality trait rather than a detriment. Those who don't can go fuck themselves! :lol:
  10. Beck

    Beck Monarchist, Far-Right Nationalist

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    I'm pushing into my 30s and still stuck living like a groundhog. If I only had the money I had before I wasted it at college. But I DO have benefits through my employer, and during the interview, they just looked over my transcripts and were like, "oh you went to college; that's nice." That was it, the rest of the hour was like what do you know about XYZ, none of which had ANYTHING to do with what I studied, then after the panel was done with me they're like "is this pay rate okay for you, 90 day wait on benefits?" I was like "Sure." That was 3 years ago. There comes a point where you just say fuck this degree, and humble yourself with a job you THINK might make use of your degree someday, but never does. But, the important thing is at the end of the hour I HAVE A JOB.
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  11. Beck

    Beck Monarchist, Far-Right Nationalist

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    Did you just say you're a vain blonde young man? I really must meet you. ;)
  12. Zombie

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    I'm putting money away for the kids college through the state.

    While I won't of course make the decision for them I will be pushing as hard as I can to get them into fields that will let them rake in the cash when it's all said and done.
  13. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    College students should pursue a field they have some passion for, but one that also has some reasonable opportunity as a career.

    I always laugh at the scene in 'Groundhog Day' when Andie MacDowell's character tells Bill Murray's that she majored in eighteenth century French poetry and his gut response is "What a waste of time!" It's funny, 'cause it's true. Not that French poetry ISN'T a worthwhile pursuit, just that it's something you could pursue in your free time; it isn't something to major in.
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    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    Nope. I know too many other people that have done it for it to be a "one in a million" type of event.
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  15. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Not disparaging the English Lit degree. Just saying that people who go after such degrees should be fully aware that there are not many options once you've gotten it. Like Paladin said, you can pursue a degree in whatever field your passion lies, but you should also be aware that the world beyond college owes you NOTHING. Or like the Boy Scouts say - "be prepared".
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  16. Zombie

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    ahhhhhhhhhhhh

    but they've been told their whole lives that they are owed......

    Thank you stupid politicians......
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  17. mburtonk

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    Do you seriously think college kids think they are "owed" a job upon graduation, no matter what their major?
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  18. Uncle Albert

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    Not a monolithic group, of course, but yeah. For the most part.
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  19. polarslam

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    I find that my Princeton degree is still quite in demand!

    Ivy for life (unless it's Brown or Cornell...those might as well be state schools cause they suck IMHO!)
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    mburtonk mburtonkulous

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    What's wrong with Brown and Cornell?

    [action=mburtonk]says as he questions what he is getting into.[/action]
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    If you have to ask you are part of the problem!

    IMHO!
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  22. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Not as much as is wrong with Dartmouth. :diacanu:

    Brown is an entirely unserious place. Academically speaking there's no curriculum, grades are limited to A/B/C/no credit, and all classes outside of your major can optionally be taken pass/no credit, with "no credit" not appearing on the transcript. For 5% of students this is a good thing; for 95% it is an invitation to get even more drunk than they otherwise would. Far too much of the school's resources are devoted to a thoroughly ridiculous combined BA/MD program--admitting high school seniors to Medical school is a great big joke. Plus, it's in Providence, RI, and no one deserves to spend four years in Providence, RI.

    Cornell is easier to get into than ten dollar hooker, and about as good for your mental health. It's populated exclusively by people who are bitter because they were rejected by or unqualified to even apply to real Ivy League schools. With legacy admissions on the decline at more reputable schools, the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences is perhaps the top safety option for marginal students whose parents can pay the bill. And the location is even worse than Brown's--Ithaca is known mostly for inspiring an unusually high suicide rate.
  23. mburtonk

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    Ithaca is gorges.

    Not to defend Cornell too much, since I'm not really invested, but the spectacularness of the river might contribute to the suicide rate--if you're going to pick a way to go . . .

    So, you guys take your Ivy League schools seriously, huh?
  24. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    That's a quality pun! :techman:

    Speaking for myself, nah, not so much so. You asked, I answered with, perhaps, a touch of hyperbole. ;)

    That said, at least when I was in college Brown was not a good place for serious students. Cornell is actually a fine school, but it really is more akin to a high quality state school than to the other Ivys. There's nothing at all wrong with that--I'd be the first to say that the Ivys are overrated and state schools generally underrated--but if you go to Cornell expecting it to be like the other Ivys you'll be disappointed.
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    If you visit, you can pick up a t-shirt. Which I need to do one of these days I'm back east.
  26. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    Are you kidding me?

    My generation believes they are entitled to the fucking world without working for it.
  27. mburtonk

    mburtonk mburtonkulous

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    I don't really think of Cornell or Dartmouth as Ivies, but that's just because I don't particularly care if a school is Ivy League or not. It all depends on who you are and what you value in an education (something I still talk about with my girlfriend, since she went to a state school and I went to a small private liberal arts school).
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    Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth should just be dumped from the Ivy and replaced with small, but spunky schools like Amherst, Wesleyan, and Williams. None of those three are Princeton, but at least they try.

    IMHO!
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    That's just sad.
  30. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Sad that someone has the ambition to earn a post-grad degree and parents who support her? Your definition of "sad" is commensurate with your views on most things.
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