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Not to mention the 4th Doctor could have been travelling with Romana for centuries, since they're both Timelords.

So, The God Complex.

[?=1)This young lady is just ENTIRELY too cute when she smiles]

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2) It preys on your faith?!? HA! Finally an episode where I would save the fucking day. [/?]

We don't really know how long Nine was around, apart from knowing that he had various offscreen adventures as shown in the photos on that guys website. I like the theory that says he actually buggered off for a few years at the end of his first episode. The first time Rose turns him down he dematerializes, goes exploring for a while by himself and has various adventures. He still can't make any real connections though. Then he remembers that young blonde girl he left in London years ago and goes back to ask her again if she wants to come with him.

Yup. Only explanation I can come up with since he appears to be newly regenerated in Rose and the implication from RTD in magazines, etc was that it was the 8th Doctor that had fought in the Time War and defeated the Daleks and Time Lords, the result of which caused him to regenrate. So that little break away seems the only likelihood.

Yes, you are right. I had in my mind the image of a 700 year old diary, but after checking it was a 500 year old diary (from Power of the Daleks).

Same reason he visits museums: to keep score?

Yep, I believe the TV Movie with Paul McGann showed it as either a 700 Year Diary or a 900 Year Diary. I can't recall offhand which it was.

When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not, hmm!

Don't begrudge the doc a few decades either way.

So there was last night's episode. Hell of a season-ender.

So I'm glad to see Moffat is as good at plugging plot holes as Davies.

I think there's something unresolved, however...

^ yes, I presume that the name telling is simply still to come. Or him telling her something else that matters.

Generally, a marvellous episode.

Enjoyed the humour and, despite strongly suspecting what the question would be, very much enjoyed the pay-off of setting up a more 'low level' Doctor for the next series, keeping his head down...

So...

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I thought the robot Doctor thing was so obvious it was kind of a cop-out. Interesting that it was capable of simulating the attempts at regeneration, though.

All of history happening at once was kind of a neat gimmick, I guess. Liked the Area 52 pyramid with built-in train station.
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The Doctor robot thing made no sense. The whole point was he had to die. Instead just killing a robot is good enough???

You have to be kidding me????

It was absolute and total convoluated garbage. A pathetic end to the worst season of the revival by a long shot.

As I said to someone last week, I think Moffat's mistake is that he is like a kid in a candy shop. He is through his first year and now he has free reign. He has too much fan in him and he sees the show as a way to make his fan dreams come true. I think if you contrast his efforts this year to the effort of Neil Gaiman the contrast is all too evident. Gaiman, like RTD, knew that you could bring in elements of the past to a show but you still needed that quality drama. That's why, IMO, The Doctor's Wife remains the stand out episode of the season and the other good episodes are all authored by people other than Moffat. What saddens me most is that I had high hopes for Moffat. I felt he would just add in that little bit extra feeling of the classic show to the revival. After shows like Blink I never expected that to be at the expense of quality writing. Perhaps Moffat is better off writing the odd episodes here and there, rather than running the whole show. Writing an episode is one thing, planning a whole show, including audience appreciation and so forth, is clearly a bigger task and one at which he may not be as skilled as RTD.

What exactly where we watching tonight? The episode was nothing but pathetic quick fixes for the vastly too many plot questions that Moffat has tried to be over clever on.

Moffat may be good at individual episodes, but he doesn't have a clue how to write arcs and good pay offs. You only have to compare great episodes like The Empty Child and Blink to dross like this to be able to see that. Leagues apart. He clearly thinks he is far more clever than he actually is.

Moffatt either has to be reigned in or replaced for next season. Two good episodes and one half decent one has made for an extremely dissapointing season. I expect better next year if he is to stay on in the same capacity.

Episode - 1/10 (I never thought this episode would be worse than any of the previous arc episodes)

Season - 3/10 (worst season of the revival by a long shot).

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That part I can live with. The event recorded as the Doctor's death had to occur at that point in time. Since the timeline righted itself, the way it went down was how it was supposed to happen.

And I don't really get what anyone thought it would solve for them. Just like the "Doh! I have a time machine" themes of the last two episodes were trying to beat into our heads, it doesn't matter that he died at one point. There's no accounting for every single day in the life of his living self prior to that point. He could still show up in any point in history even if he had actually died. So now if he gets caught being alive by the Silence, he can just claim he wasn't at that point yet. [/spoilers]

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What about her 10th Doctor episodes?[/spoilers]

The only thing that bothered me was the Tessalecta suddenly being able to mimic regular movement, body language and facial expressions so well, and without any of the telltale robot noises.

Not unreasonable to assume the Doctor either souped up their controls or was just more skilled at manipulating them.

Score one here for the idea of the Doctor going a bit underground, hopefully next season will see less threats to the universe/reality as a whole and go back to more of an old school incarnation.

Personally I liked the finale, saw the Tesselecta coming a mile away. I figured that it would involve either it or a return of the Ganger Doctor.

Loved it. Only minor quibbles with seeing the resolution coming a mile away, but the journey was still a lot of fun.

No. He never died, it was always the robot but he to turn up and get shot. And then everyone believed him to be dead.

I hope they will be giving River a rest now.

This season was more about her than the Doctor.

I agree. She kinda bothers me anyway.

And a break from companions in general, too.

You're always going to have companions. For one, that's just the traditional format of the show. For two, they fill a vital role as the "eyes and ears of the audience". The Doctor explains to the audience by explaining to the companions.

They can fill that role with the guest star of the week. The whole "dear to his heart companion in jeopardy, possibly at the center of the trouble" theme is wearing a little thinner every time they recycle it.

I'm the opposite. I'd love to see more of River, and Alex Kingston in general.

Yeah, that would work too.

But apparently fans prefer a stable cast, or something.

The classic Who companions were not like that. He was always separate from them and there was never hugging, romance etc. They should go back to that.

I dunno, I'm one who thinks Baker-Who was slipping the sausage to Romana....

Here's a question for the more knowledgeable folks: What ever happened to the Doctor's cloned "daughter"? Last thing I remember, she was flying off in a little rocket ship. There may have been more on her sometime later, but I'm never sober when I watch this stuff...