Details About The New Star Wars "Spin Off" Films

You know, that's a good point, would've changed The Empire Strikes Back as well.

A lot of stuff in the films fall apart pretty easy (especially in the PT). Remember when Luke leaves Dagobah and either Yoda or Obi Wan says, "There goes our only hope." To which the other one responds, "No, there is another." Kinda doesn't make sense, what with both of them knowing the birth and all. Then there's Vader not being able to figure out Leia's his kid, or that she's even capable of using the Force, despite the two of them being in close quarters for hours on end while she was being tortured.

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The real world reason for that was that the Luke/Vader thing was something they came up with for the second film, and Luke's twin was supposed to be an entirely new character that ended up being scrapped due to time restraints, IIRC.

That's unpossible! Lucas had everything worked out years in advance! He'd always planned it that way! He said so! Its like the whole Greedo shooting first thing. It was there in the original film, but because of the piss-poor editing job, you just couldn't see it!

Two classic examples, and you're right, the films do fall apart upon examination. Another easy example is the hiding of infant Luke Skywalker - They hide him on Anakin's home planet with Anakin's step father, and keep his surname.

But it turns out they need not have hidden him at all because, in The Empire Strikes Back, Darth Vader is surprised to learn that Anakin Skywalker could even have a son. Seems the Empire was never trying to find Anakin's kids.


Here's a site with funny nitpicks from all six films.

If Han Solo were recast, this would be my pick to play him:



I think the guy has just the right amount of savvy and attitude to play a young Han. He was not out of place or a bad actor when he was on BSG.

Were we watching the same BSG? That dude couldn't believably convey emotion if you shot him in the foot on the day of his puppy's funeral.

The Boba Fett prequel is confirmed by someone in the biz who's read the script.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/30305/kasdan-working-on-boba-fett-spin-off-script

Excellent. Now I want to see some leaks confirming the Han prequel.

From your link:

You'd expect a mainstream site to fuck that shit up, but a nerd site?

If you're gonna do Boba Fett as the basis for a movie, I think you should make it an outer space version of The Fugitive. Give us a sympathetic character who is on the run, and have Fett chase after him.

Draw inspiration from the Firefly episode "Objects in Space." That's the best Boba Fett story yet, even if for some reason they keep calling him "Jubal Early."

Boba Fett is "cool," but I'm not sure he's all that interesting if he's the focus. Our emotional investment would be better placed in his quarry, someone we want to see escape.

Character wise, he's The Man With No Name, equipment wise, he's evil Batman with a rocket pack.

The problem with such a scenario (and it really only happens if you're planning on doing more than one) is that it can easily turn into Same Shit, Different Movie. That's one of the things I hated about the original Hulk TV series was it quickly became Same Shit, Different Week.

There were a lot of formula episodes, sure, but the well remembered ones shook things up a bit.


I reviewed the whole damned thing here.

It tapered off in the last two seasons, but there were still gems as late as the 4th season.

All I can see with Disney owning WARS now is this: it has always been a cash machine. But then, most of the material has some heart. Even CLONE WARS (kids over here love it and it makes birthday presents easy because there's just so much merch) has. Yes, even the prequel trilogy has a few things going for it. Except for the first one of course, every last copy should be shot into the sun.

Disney will squeeze the life out of it. I will milk it to death and make billions in the process. I think we can prepare for a hurricane of 'products' from this that'll make the past 40 years of this franchise look like child's play. Movies, prequels, animated, comics, merchandise in epic proportions, the works. It will all be written by Disney's marketing department, catering to target groups instead of people. JJ will be a good boy and deliver whatever they tell him to deliver because after three movies he'll be set for life.

Don't believe me? Why do you think they're so set on rushing it out by 2015? Investors want they payday. Now. Show'll be over after a few years when the market is so oversaturated it will puke Chewbacca action figures.

^^You might be right. Then again, they definitely didn't ruin Marvel, and that would arguably have been easier to do.

Not yet, anyway. They're just getting started on ramping up putting out Marvel properties.

In another move I totally saw coming, Marvel is doing the Star Wars comics now instead of Dark Horse.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/30298/disney-moves-star-wars-comics-to-marvel

I'm so not interested in a Fett or Solo prequel.

That's a bannable statement!

Sometimes characters are more interesting the less you know about their backstory.

There are a lot of things you have to ignore if you try to reconcile the original Star Wars movie to the other five.

For example the imperial officers aboard the Death Star referring to the Force as that "ancient religion" or something to that effect.

If the ages and development of the humans in the Star Wars universe are even remotely equivalent to those of people today, then the Jedi Knights were still around when those guys were in the equivalent of high school. Not something you would refer to as "ancient".

Personally, I think to this day that the whole "Luke, I am your father" thing was a mistake that of course George Lucas glommed on at the very last minute.

Well, we refer to Christianity as an ancient religion; and in dictatorships that try to suppress memory of this or other religions, talk about that religion changes fast, within years, much more within people's lifetimes.

Its not impossible that this could be a good flick, but part of the strength of a character like Fett, Vader in the first film, and Ledger's Joker, is that there's so much about them that you don't know.

If this is going to be set between Star Wars and ESB (Oh, and another mistake Dicky's link makes is that Fett was introduced in The Star Wars Holiday Special and not ESB), you need to keep the character in a fairly tight box so people watching the movie (who're obsessive SW fans) don't scream, "Hey! Why the fuck didn't he use that against the Sarlaac?" I don't know if Kasdan can do it. Word has it that the genius behind the ESB script wasn't him, it was Leigh Brackett (whom Kasdan replaced after she died suddenly).

And now that I think about it, here's what has me concerned about all the potential new SW movies: Both SW and ESB were breathtakingly original films. Sure, they had elements cribbed from fairy tales and other films, but in the tradition of all great art, they stole from everyone. By the time we got to Jedi, and even moreso with the PT, George is only stealing from himself. JJ seems to slavishly worship Lucas at times, so he's liable to do the same thing with the movies he's doing.

Yea, I was wondering if including Marvel in my original post was a good idea. They sure had a streak lately. However, I think the reason that the flood of Marvel movies doesn't suck has three reasons: luck, RDJ and Kevin Feige. Also, the characters are quite fresh and exciting for most viewers (you don't make billions with only the comic nerds). We'll have to see what will happen when they are forced to use more and more absurd heroes from the back rows to keep it coming. Ant-Man, anyone?

The Warsverse has been going on for close to 40 years now and it's still reduced to the original trilogy whenever people talk about it. There are so many parallels to the Trekverse it's uncanny. Paramount saw this and brought back the guys everybody knows, Kirk and Spock. They hit the jackpot. But bringing back Luke and Han and princess Leia? Can't see it, sorry. I can see Jar Jar Binks and a lot of people getting tired of the inevitable marketing blitz before the first movie even comes out, though.

Coming Summer 2015!

Actually, Paramount didn't have much choice if they were going to put out a new Trek movie, but to reboot the franchise. Shatner, et. al. are either too old or too dead, the TNG movies were never that popular (for good reason), DS9 wouldn't work without Avery Brooks (and getting him back would be tricky), not too many people liked Voyager, and even fewer liked Enterpoop. So, if you're a big Follywood exec, who wants to have a predictable cash cow at the box office every couple of years, what do you? Dust off one of the old gangs and hope it isn't a stinker? Or do you hire a hot, young director, give him a big budget, and new cast in a familiar setting, knowing that even if the original Trek fans don't come to see the movie in droves, fans of the director and the cast will show up (who have broader appeal for various reasons), so that even if the film isn't a huge hit, it at least turns a profit?

I think Boba Fett as the focus of a movie is very bad. Boba Fett is a classic example of the "less is more" formula. Mysterious, very few words, and for that matter few actions makes him a blank slate that fans can imagine their own stories on. Make him the focus and he becomes much more conventional

I liked how he was portrayed in the expanded universe and thought it clever how (mainly through being mentioned casually in various novels) how he ultimately became an ally of the Solo family.

I look at Boba Fett the same way I look at Wolverine.

I see mildly interesting characters...which I will never understand the mad nerdlove of.

I dunno about Wolverine, but I get the Boba Fett lurve, since I remember when he was first rumored. The world (and, yes, the world) was pretty obsessed with Star Wars when it first came out, with references to it popping up everywhere after the film was released. (The closest thing I've seen to it in the years since was Avatar.) Everybody wanted to know if they were going to make a sequel to the thing, and eventually, we got to see interviews with the cast where they'd drop hints ("It'll take place on an ice planet."), but no details, no behind the scenes pics. Until, in the days before the Star Wars Holiday Special was announced, we were told that it was going to feature an appearance by a bounty hunter who would show up in the next movie. Naturally, we all eagerly tuned in and were treated to this:



So, take a world where you couldn't find information about a project any time you wanted it, tease fans with the mention of a character, and describe him as someone who's job implies that they have to be a bad ass, and you've got the makings of an obsession. (None of which is harmed by the fact that we generally don't see a lot of said character on screen.)

^^^ All the more reason we should keep him mysterious.