A Reply from Gen-Y

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  1. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Starting a new thread rather than latching on to this one. Reminder, that was about an article telling Gen-Y to stop whining about how they aren't all CEOs just yet. Gotta say, this guy looks like a poster child for the very traits critiqued in the other article.

    http://aweinstein.kinja.com/fuck-you-im-gen-y-and-i-dont-feel-special-or-entitl-1333588443

    He starts by saying he's not special or entitled, and then goes on to explain why he's special and entitled. I especially liked this bit, which is the reality faced by most people in most generations:

    What he doesn't seem to get is that most people aren't rich, especially in their 20s and 30s. But he believes he should be making more money because he has a job that paid better at one time. Well, that's what happens when you select an obsolete profession.

    Anyway, I could rant forever about this guy, but mostly I'm just amused by how much he represents that which he claims not to be.
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  2. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    It's society's fault he made a baby without a secure means of supporting it.

    :facepalm:

    "Society should pay my bills and guarantee me solvency! It's oppressive to make me work more than I want and give me less than I feel I deserve! :sob: "

    Whiny little turd. If you didn't earn it, you dont' fucking deserve it.
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  3. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I'd ask why his first thought was "Take the baby to the ER" instead of "Call the pediatrician," but that's just me. :shrug:
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  4. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    He's probably not a very good parent, though I'm sure he received the "I'm a parent" trophy from his child birth coach.
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  5. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I wouldn't be at all surprised.
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  6. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Yeah, generation-Y is pretty lousy, but generation-X was worse, and the boomers were even worse, and "the greatest generation", was just fucking horrible.

    But, the good news is that means we're slowly curving upwards.

    Generation-Z will be that much better, and generation-A-1 will finally save the world.

    But, I won't live to see it. :(

    I'm trapped in this finite little lifetime with you assholes.

    :brood:
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  7. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Note the way he uses the kid as a fashion statement. It's all an effort to point out that he's a better man than his dad because he allows the kid to intrude on his miserable failure of a life. Although, apparently not too much, because he's worked his ass off to become one of the greatest bloggers out there, one admired as a leader by Gen-Z bloggers.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Forcefully stated, but I must agree.

    WHY DO YOU HAVE A BABY if you don't have the means to take care of it? Do you somehow imagine that your ability to reproduce entitles you to subsidy at the expense of others?

    Society has never been KINDER and EASIER than it is right now. So don't talk to me about "vassalage" because you didn't make education and career--with their attendent benefits--a priority over SPAWNING.

    Grow the fuck up, go get a job, and earn your keep like a free person.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    But, hey, an old Boomer like Muad Dib believes in bloggers! Surely they're the next-gen Kwizatz Haderach!
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    Is there any other way? :diacanu:
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  11. Mrs. Albert

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    work is....like....hard. :cry:
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  12. Rimjob Bob

    Rimjob Bob Sue Collini always gets the weenie

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    Whether or not you want to interpret the anecdotal comments as being "entitled" or not, it's as if economic indicators mean squat to you people.

    :jayzus:
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  13. Mrs. Albert

    Mrs. Albert demented estrogen monster

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    hey now - what's with the "you people"?

    i'm very aware of the hand I've been dealt in comparison to generations before me. in some ways i'm better off and in other ways i'm not. :shrug: but i'm not going to become a blogger and then cry about how I don't have a pension.
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  14. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    Um...Is he upset he lives in a paradox? Could he be suffering from mental illness?
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  15. BearTM

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    Pediatrician isn't open 24/7 for walkins.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    It's not that we ignore the indicators, it's that they are nothing new. My first job out of college paid $8.35 an hour. Adjusted for inflation, that's $13.92. We gen-Xers lived high on the hog in our twenties! That's why we got together with the boomers and decided to fuck over the next group.

    No, wait, that's not what happened. Actually, we grew up, we worked hard, we traded up. Now my job grade is legitimately executive level. And guess what, 20 years ago, I didn't deserve that responsibility and wasn't worth the pay. At the time, though, boy was I sure convinced that it was a unique thing for my age cohort. What I'm trying to say, is it wasn't, nor is it for Gen-Y. And from conversations I've had with boomers and greatest gen folks, I'm pretty sure it's always been true that people suffer from an urgency to meet high expectations in their 20s to achieve something that usually takes a few decades.
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  17. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    However, the Internet is, and it tells you when an infant's fever is serious, when it isn't, and what to do about it.

    Also, pediatricians have answering services, if not backup doctors on-call.

    You shouldn't need to be told any of that. Nor that "Take the kid to the ER every time he has an ear infection" is one of the contributing factors in the high cost of healthcare in this country.
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  18. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    I think the more important question is why do they not have some sense about parenting?
    ER for a fever? Seriously :jayzus:
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    Economic indicators like the obvious fucking consequence of demand rising due to subsidized tuition? No, let's just pretend that should have no effect and wail about how unfair it is that student debt rises perpetually. And rather than recognizing that diseased policy for what it is and acting accordingly, let's just prolong it indefinitely so nobody "feeeeeeeeeeeeels" like they got an unfair deal compared to the previous generation.
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  22. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    How long before you start telling your kid how when you were his age you had to walk five miles to school, uphill both ways, in the snow?
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  23. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Hmm, let's see, never?*

    By the way, you present a false analogy. My statement boils down to "life isn't as hard as you think it is." Whereas the oft-ridiculed line about uphill both ways, etc. works out to "life is easier than it should be."

    * As a side note, my kids actually have all walked to school up hill in the snow both ways. The school is at the bottom of the hill, our house is at the bottom of the other slope. Up hill both directions. And sometimes it snows.
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  24. Bickendan

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    Yes, but were they so poor that the only traction they had was barbed wire? :ramen:
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    Objectively false.

    A comparison of debt burden upon graduation rates, employment upon graduation rates (yes, even within fields), and compensation rates upon graduation (yes, even within fields) clearly shows that Millennials ARE facing something very, very new.

    Saying 'my generation and the boomers had it just as bad' requires Albertarian levels of reality denial.
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  26. Uncle Albert

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    Fuck you, Anc. How many goddamned times have I mentioned rising tuition rates? Nobody can deal with that because you're all stuck in this delusion that everyone "deserves" an education. Well, this is the fallout. Tuitions are higher, student debts are higher, more kids are competing in the same job market, and all of that has an impact on the economy.
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    Uncle Albert would prefer a stupider America.
  28. Uncle Albert

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    I would prefer an America that retains some semblance of a work ethic, some hint of integrity, and at least a hint of personal accountability.

    All of which is incompatible with "I am owed what I want, and I don't care who has to pay for it".
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  29. We Are Borg

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    ...Or call other friends with children or... god forbid... call your own parents for their advice.
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  30. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Gonna have to blame tapatalk for that :brood: