Mass shooting in Chicago

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  1. Sokar's Ghost

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    Fear not. Black Jesus will protect you. He will spread his wings of love and take a bullet for you.

    Right after he pays your mortgage, puts gas in your tank, and everything is alright now.
  2. Ebeneezer Goode

    Ebeneezer Goode Gobshite

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    We did, until the late 60's - previous laws were pretty much based on the fear of the working class having access to such weaponry (make of that what you will.) IIRC, we still have a Right to Bear Arms - however, unlike the US, it has the modifier of "according to law."

    It was the introduction of gang "gun culture" in the 70's, Hungerford and Dunblaine that saw strict gun laws being introduced, as previously they'd simply not been an issue beyond use in crimes.

    So it wasn't gun availability that was the issue, it was the glamorisation of guns and cultural changes.
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  3. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti-establishment Staff Member Administrator

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    Known to whom?

    The police, of course. Whoever is arrested for this crime will have a rap sheet a mile long, including previous arrests for illegal possession of a firearm. Bet on it.

    Wouldn't you have to be a psycho to shoot into a crowd of strangers?

    No, just convinced it was something you had to do. Whoever shot these people doesn't hear voices, doesn't suffer hallucinations, and if he seems paranoid it's because people really are out to get him.

    It's a gang problem, not a gun problem. :shrug:

  4. John Castle

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    But that would mean that parents would have to take... :calli:... responsibility.

    Oh, oh, Gods! Oh, Gods almighty, we can't have people taking responsibility!

    It's so much easier to blame an amoral object for our woes! If only those wicked, wicked rocks hadn't been there, those sweet, upstanding Muslim boys wouldn't have beaten that rape victim to death for adultery! Right? Let's not, whatever we do, assign culpability for human actions to human beings! :weep:
  5. RickDeckard

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    Very few of these high profile spree killers seem to belong to gangs...
  6. LizK

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    You forgot the chicken in the pot and a 401K that will take care of you when you retire. Oh and health insurance
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    I believe he's talking about Chicago, where the number of shooting and murder victims dwarfs the combined tally of all the much hyped mass shootings.
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  8. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    dude, it's America.

    the number of daily shooting and murder victims dwarfs the combined total of mass shooting victims in a given year
  9. Dayton Kitchens

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    Of Americans murdered in a given year, the total number killed by high profile spree killers is a very small percentage of the total.
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  10. K.

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    So is the number of people killed by planes that terrorists fly into skyscrapers, btw. Percentage is not always the only consideration.
  11. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti-establishment Staff Member Administrator

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    Which is why it's entirely inappropriate to classify a gang shooting as a spree shooting of the other variety.

  12. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Using today's criteria, Albert Kachellek, Peter Gusenberg, Frank Gusenberg, Adam Heyer, Reinhardt Schwimmer, Albert Weinshank, and John May where simply the victims of a random mass shooting. Chicago PD can go ahead and wrap that one up! :flow:
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  13. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    I think most people here are against many of the anti-terrorism overreactions the government has taken in response to 9/11.

    Gunforge isn't exactly a hotbed of support for the Patriot Act, the TSA, the DHS, the NDAA, etc.
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    You are. Just because you could be my son doesn't mean you're not an old fart. It just means I'm an even older fart. :geezer:

    Now get off my lawn and go play somewhere else! :shakefist:

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  15. BearTM

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    It's arguable that in that culture, such a death should be considered "natural causes".
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    Um... you might want to look at my post again. I didn't say anything about 'natural causes.'
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    And notice how the Navy massacre and the so called mass shooting at Chicago have dropped off the news........
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    Of course, no evil "assault weapons" to rally people against. :diacanu:
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  19. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    And it wasn't white guys shooting black guys.
  20. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Oh but Obama called for more gun control at the DC memorial service, of course.
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  21. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Oh no you di-int!
  22. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I agree with him to a point - if you're a violent criminal/felon and you get caught with a gun in your possession during any future crimes while on parole, you get shot point blank with that same gun, and left in the street to rot/feed the critters.

    It's only fair! If they weren't carrying the gun you wouldn't have been able to take it from them and shoot them with it.

    It's like in the military, bitching about the commander kicking over your trash can during an inspection. If it was empty, there wouldn't be anything to clean up, right? So why bitch about him kicking over an empty trash can? Oh, there was trash in it.......dumbass!
  23. gul

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    Actually, there's the lack of dead people to consider.
  24. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    Fixed.
  25. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Indeed! RESTRICT the right of the average Joe who might be able to stop or deter a crime or two while the real criminals can get a gun in 30 seconds or less. :rotfl:
  26. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti-establishment Staff Member Administrator

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    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...taliation-For-Graze-Wound-Cops-225033402.html

    Called it.

  27. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    What is a "graze wound?" Should this cow watch where he's eating more closely?

    Anyway, the last sentance was partly right - yes, we do need stricter punishments for felons using guns, but no - we dont need to keep guns out of our communities, because the "community" didn't shoot up the park. Certain elements of your community did, and will continue to do so with impunity because they will be back out doing it again in a few years/months. That and dead-ender females keep coupling with felons and making baby felons to continue the cycle. :brood:

    BTW six months of "bootcamp" really did the trick! :doh:
    Well, we tried. :itsokay:
    So now let's do it my way and he leaves the court-room in a bodybag. Or, hang all the shooters bodies in the park from a basketball hoop.

    BTW someone help me get inside the hood rat mindset:
    another gang banger gives you a flesh wound, so you shoot a three year old? And this elevates you among your peers how exactly? :wtf:

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  28. Volpone

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    They had 11 more shootings since this. In other news, repressive gun laws work! :marathon: