2016 Presidential Election Thread

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  1. gturner

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    Trump is praised to the heavens by beauty pageant contestants. In fact, they've gone to great lengths to destroy the media narrative to the extent that the media will not even go there anymore.

    In contrast, women are coming out of the woodwork to talk about how Hillary's husband sexually assaulted or raped them, how they have to sleep with a gun, and in some cases how their husband were found dead with a bullet through the head, similar to all the other people who've run up against Hillary and died execution style. Perhaps the latest is the DNC staffer who was shot in the back. Wikileaks is offering a $20,000 reward for information on his killer. In other news, the government files on the murder of Hillary's right hand man, Vince Foster, have been disappeared. Now why would someone disappear the Vince Foster files? He was a great guy who shot himself in the head in a park using his right hand, which is unusual for a left handed person.
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    Good. There is probably a future for him in that business.
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    Old news... This was on Wait Wait ages ago! :elflat:
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  5. gturner

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    Hillary hosted dinner for Victor Pinchuk, Putin-backed Ukrainian industrialist who violated US sanctions on Iran, and who of course didn't face any actions from the US because he paid Hillary at least $8.6 million dollars and pledged far more.

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    By "hosted a dinner for," of course, our resident pathological liar means "hosted a dinner at which he was one of the guests."

    And despite all the innuendo, there's still not a single example of a foundation donor changing U.S. policy. But by all means, let's continue with the innuendo without mentioning, say, the millions that Halliburton gave NOT to a charitable foundation started by George Bush, but directly to his campaign and those of other Republicans, while profiteering off of the war he started.
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    So it was US policy to protect Boko Haram? If so, why did Kerry say it made absolutely no sense? I guess he didn't know about the millions of dollars paid to Hillary by Nigerian oil barons, along with a pledge of $1 Billion to her foundation.

    And Halliburton was donating to Republican causes long before 9/11, and of course Cheney locked up his money in a blind trust, and any increase in that trust while he was in office was given away to charities. In contrast, while Clinton was in office she Hoovered up over $2 billion dollars, mostly from foreign donors, and then turned around and gave them favors.\ For example, she approved a $77 million dollar State Department grant to a guy who donated $17 million back to Bill Clinton. Isn't that cute? She gives our tax money to people who will turn around and give it to her! Any other politician would be in prison for that. Indeed, there's a politician rotting in jail just for doing favors for a donor - no cash received.

    Meanwhile, people are asking why one of Clinton's close aides was researching a drug used to treat Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and e-mailing her the results.

    Free Beacon story

    Emails Show Top Clinton Aide Researched Alzheimer’s Drug

    Recently released emails show that Jake Sullivan, a top aide to Hillary Clinton, researched a drug that is used to treat Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s, among other disorders, while Clinton was secretary of state and told her about his findings.

    Sullivan, Clinton’s top foreign policy adviser, was researching the drug Provigil for Clinton at the State Department in 2011, the Daily Caller reported.

    Sullivan emailed Clinton information on Provigil and told her about its use and history. Sullivan noted in an email that Provigil is used for narcolepsy and treating patients with Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, and Multiple Sclerosis who have excessive sleepiness.

    The is medically unfit to hold the office. She's also morally unfit to be outside of a federal prison.
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    Jesus wept, but you're an idiot.
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  9. gturner

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    Well do you think she has Alzheimer's or Parkinson's, or is she taking it for narcolepsy?

    No President should be taking that drug, either. Warnings include:

    Modafinil affects the central nervous system. This medication may impair your thinking or reactions. Be careful if you drive or do anything that requires you to be alert.

    Like being President of the United States.

    She's medically unfit to hold the office of President. Anyone who has to wear adult diapers shouldn't even run. She's also morally unfit to hold any office of public trust, and belongs in federal prison, if not sitting on Old Sparky.
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    Nigel Farage addressed the Trump Rally in Mississippi. The crowd went wild for him. :)
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    yup, a speech about "taking back our freedom" like #Brexit with one of the movements leading voices....in Mississippi.
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    Total coincidence
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    meanwhile

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  13. gturner

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    That's funny, because everyone else in the charity business who's looked at it says that all but about 9% is spent on the Clintons. Hillary must have paid them $150,000 or so for the positive rating - or threatened to have their families killed.
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    Another lie. The 9 percent, more or less, is the amount that the foundation spends on direct grants to other foundations.

    Some foundations exist solely as granting entities, funding other nonprofits that carry out direct work in specific program areas. Some carry out that direct work themselves.
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    Correct. Boorish behavior does not include any of those things.

    The economy was ruined by Clinton, Bush and Obama. The constitution was ripped up by Clinton, Bush and Obama. Soldiers have been unwittingly participating as pawns in the military-industrial complex since before Vietnam. 'International alliances' is code for globalism which is the bedrock of selling out countrymen to foreign strongmen leaders.

    This election comes down to global interests (big bankers, big corporations, big pharma, world-policing, mainstream media) versus the individual.
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  16. gturner

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    New York Post article

    Charity watchdog: Clinton Foundation a ‘slush fund’

    The Clinton Foundation’s finances are so messy that the nation’s most influential charity watchdog put it on its “watch list” of problematic nonprofits last month.

    The Clinton family’s mega-charity took in more than $140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just $9 million on direct aid.

    The group spent the bulk of its windfall on administration, travel, and salaries and bonuses, with the fattest payouts going to family friends.

    On its 2013 tax forms, the most recent available, the foundation claimed it spent $30 million on payroll and employee benefits; $8.7 million in rent and office expenses; $9.2 million on “conferences, conventions and meetings”; $8 million on fundraising; and nearly $8.5 million on travel. None of the Clintons is on the payroll, but they do enjoy first-class flights paid for by the foundation.

    So - $140 million came in.
    $30 million went to payroll (Clinton cronies)
    $8.7 million went to rent and office "expenses" (like multiple e-mail servers and paying off people to keep them secret)
    $9.2 million went to glad handing rubes and marks
    $8 million went to "fundraising", the expenses they incurred convincing foreign officials to bribe them.
    $8.5 million went to private jets for Hillary, because according to her e-mails, she's often to sick to fly commercial.

    That's $64 million shot right there.

    In all, the group reported $84.6 million in “functional expenses” on its 2013 tax return and had more than $64 million left over — money the organization has said represents pledges rather than actual cash on hand.

    So if the $64 million wasn't actual donations, then they took in $76 million and blew $84.6 million on themselves.

    And as we've seen, often the Clinton's charitable "giving" is to things like the Desert Classic Charities (They Clintons gave the charity $42,000), which then turned around and gave $700,000 back to the Clinton Foundation. I guess they were priming the pump.
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    well that's cute and all but two organizations which are actually NAMED and which are in the business of being trustworthy arbiters of which charities are ethical kinda carries more weight than "everyone else" whomever they might happen to be.
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    the individual who has all of his branded merchandise products made overseas?
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    and too be clear, personally I DON'T particularly trust the CF - but it's hardly a unanimous view that it's corrupt which was the point of my post.
    Much the same way as the AP had to rule out several categories of persons meeting with the SoS in order to come up with the claim that over half the people who met with her donated to the CF. Massage your assumptions a little bit one way or the other and you can spin most things in a more (or less) favorable light.
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    from the watchdog site that the NYP ciited, on the page regarding the CF:

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    Yeah, that one.

    It's called competition. If you want your business to remain competitive, you must use the advantages available to your competitors.
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    And those two charity rating organizations would be staffed by - Republicans or Democrats? As with the journalists, they've undoubtedly thrown fairness and ethics out the window in an effort to do anything to get Hillary elected.

    And note that every rating organization that's looked at the Clinton Foundation, for many years now, has said "WFT?! We're not even going to touch that!" until it's suddenly a possible stumbling block in November, and now all of the sudden they say "Everything's fine! Great charity!" even though it's obviously bullshit.

    It's not a charity, it's a criminal enterprise. Just look at what they did for Haiti. They came, they raked in a ton of money - and ran off with it, leaving Haitians poorer than they were after the freaking Earthquake.

    The Clintons are grifters. They belong in prison.
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    so according to his campaign promises he's going to force all other American businesses to do what he's unwilling to do himself. Doesn't say HOW he'll pull this off of course.
    (Johnson does have a policy proposal on that, btw)
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    Yeah, I didn't call you out for that earlier because I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    Donald Trump does not have...

  26. Nova

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    Moar.
    http://www.vox.com/2016/8/24/12618446/ap-clinton-foundation-meeting

    and...(opinion piece)
    http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...XZoEeqANOPSiL7O33QuJ/story.html?event=event25
  27. Nova

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    Examples?
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    His primary business is U.S. real estate! The infamous Trump Steaks were U.S. ag. He's produced plenty of media and pubs in the U.S.

    He's spoken extensively about corporate inversion and how he'll regulate it.
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    I wonder how many months Time has been sitting on their current "melty Trump" cover, waiting to use it, waiting to declare Trump in meltdown . . .
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    It was a nice cover though the article itself was rather bland and outdated but I guess that is the problem with print media.