The ones who were not uniformed took the time to put on law enforcement vests before they even began confronting Scott.
I think reading this sentence just gave me a brain injury! But what I think you are saying is I'm not having compassion for someone with a brain injury. Let me break it down for you: I may be slow on the uptake with various things (hence my disability) but the guy surely understood that as a CONVICTED FELON he was not allowed to carry a gun - in any state, full stop. They make that clear as a condition of your parole. He did several years for shooting a guy, so he was well aware of that. Also in North Carolina WEED IS NOT LEGAL. But NC law states having weed by itself does not warrant pulling a gun on people and freaking out. But questioning a person about the weed and then seeing a gun in an ankle holster is pretty much a red flag. At this point nobody knew Scott's lengthy police record. Here is a guy breaking a law and having a gun. I'm not a math wizard but this adds up to anyone not dropping everything in their hand and hitting the pavement face down after the first "drop the gun" command pretty much begging to be shot. And to the clueless fuckers who say "well he wasn't actually pointing the gun at any cop" I can only them and ask them how long it takes to tilt a gun 90 degrees upward and pull a trigger. About 250 milliseconds plus or minus if you are wondering.
If Scott had been thinking straight he would have done what the T-800 did. Skip to the 2 minute part to watch the relevant part. Someone knows how to follow instructions.
5 hillbily cps cant subdue a guy on a medication without getting the guy killed. . I am sure certaini medication besides pot that are smoked too. Probably sure the cops mayor and police chief could be charged with riot acts. T
If cops are that twitchy they need a different job. It is just too dangerous to the public to have these scaredy cats in tense situations. They do not help. They get people killed, and Keith Scott did not pull the trigger so he did not kill himself. Bad argument.
I haven't seen the mayor but their chief of police has his shit together. BTW not saying Tererun hasn't been in any for-real "gun pointing" situations, but I'm getting a pretty strong "you don't have a fucking clue kid" vibe. So what does a cop have to do Tererun - wait until the bullet is actually on the way down the barrel of the gun to decide that the suspect is a real threat? This isn't paint ball. Scott had quite a long time to drop that gun that he wasn't even supposed to be carrying. You talk about gun control laws but here is an example (convicted felons can't have guns) of why more gun control laws aren't the answer - criminals don't give a fuck about the law. I knew (who didn't?) that the goalposts would start moving once more facts came out. First there was outrage because an "unarmed" black man was killed. Then there was outrage because he was armed, but so what a lot of people in NC are - why was he being hassled? Then there was outraged because he was hassled because it looked like he was rolling a joint, and weed should be no big deal anyway. Then there was outrage because despite having a gun and being told several times to "drop the gun" he would not drop the gun. If Scott would have pulled the trigger (the only situation in which the cops should shoot back, according to Tererun) then there would be outrage because Scott missed the target or only hit a cop in the arm. I heard some people on a local radio talk show say that the cops signed up for a dangerous job, so they should have to undertake more risk than they need to. Really now? A cop has no right to go home alive at the end of his shift? IMO (just an opinion) a lot of people are upset because THE NARRATIVE IS FALLING APART! The original default ANOTHER UNARMED BLACK MAN SHOT BY RACIST COPS fell all to shit from the git-go. Well no big deal, we lost the racism angle, we still have "unarmed" angle......oops maybe not. Well you get the idea. Now we find out Scott was in possession of a STOLEN GUN. What choice did he have? A convicted felon can't buy a gun legally. Damn it looks like Scott "pulled the trigger" on himself by making bad choices (like shooting a man in Texas) throughout his entire life. People that make consistently bad choices involving criminal activity of any type (let alone violent crime) tend to not live too long. So Tererun, maybe "twitchy scaredy-cat cops" aren't really a problem for people that comply with lawful police orders "drop the gun!" for example or - better still - don't purchase or carry guns when they are a convicted felon with a history of shooting people. Again, sorry about the SJW narrative falling apart - it really had potential!
http://www.twcnews.com/nc/charlotte...etails-keith-scott-s-criminal-history.html#/0 So the gun was stolen. I think we all know that since the guy was a felon but here's a little tidbit that wasn't known....... Records show briefly last year, Scott’s wife took out a restraining order against him. “He hit my 8 year old in the head a total of three times with is [sic] fist....He kicked me and threaten [sic] to kill us last night with his gun. He said he is a ‘killer’ and we should know that,” she wrote on the form last October. The complaint asked, “Is there any reason that a law enforcement officer should consider the defendant a potential threat? (i.e., carries concealed weapons while drinking alcohol, has threatened officer, etc.)” She marked “yes” and wrote, “He carries a 9mm black.”
What disturbs the fuck out of me is the fact that he held a job as a SECURITY GUARD! How in the hell does that company not catch "convicted felon for gun and drug crimes" when they ran a background check? Every fucking employer in Charlotte runs an employee background check except for a security company? It must have been Wackenhut - they got banned from Fort Gordon for hiring known criminals. Great vetting job US ARMY - why don't you just hire The Taliban while you are at it? Anyway, this Charlotte thing just keeps getting better & better. I guess "he has no weapon!" is code talk/urban slang for "I filed a restraining order and am fully aware that he has a 9 mil pistol and is a self-proclaimed killer". Damn those SJW must be getting a belly-full of all that crow they are eating. BTW where is Space Turkey? He hasn't weighed in on this for a few days now. Maybe he's organizing a candle light vigil for that innocent gentle angel who left this world too soon.
If we say you're right, will you stop fucking gloating? FFS, no exception of this changes the fact that blacks men get gunned down far more often than whites. Folks like Philando and the caregiver and Tamir Rice, among countless others.
Right around the 17 second mark of that body cam video that the police released, you can see his right pant leg pulled up over what looks a lot like an empty holster.
There is a theory out there that he was depressed because of the brain injury and wanted to commit suicide but the cops got involved and he changed to tactics and did suicide by cop. The theory is why the wife was saying, "don't do it" to him in the video she recorded.
And it's simply not true. All the white people gunned down by police just doesn't get the same media coverage.
No. It's true. You have to remember that blacks are only like ten or twelve percent of the population. That being said, jumping to conclusion and burning shit down over something that might not have been such a bad shoot after all doesn't do anyone any good IMHO. It doesn't change the fact that blacks get gunned down more often, but it sure muddies the water.
ding ding ding! We have a winner. No, I'm not gloating - I just saw this coming just like millions of other people. The goalposts have wheels when shit like this happens and they aren't done rolling yet. I'm done talking about this sadly typical display of "mob rule" that tries (but fails) to hold sway over common sense and fairness.
They may get gunned down more often by percentage - but then again they commit more crimes (or resist arrest or attack police) that would likely warrant a situation going south. Grab a Jail Report sometime. Tossing out shoplifting, drug possession, etc. and you end up with almost all the armed robbery, aggravated assault, rape, homicide, etc. being committed by blacks. Logic would dictate these are the types of crimes that would end up going south with tragic results more often. You can't fight math, it wins every time.
Is it disproportionate to the absolute number of blacks vs. whites killed, or relative to the % of criminal population's skin color (over 50% black, although only 12% of US gen. pop.)?
He is saying, correctly IMO, that black folks do get gun downed more as a percentage of total population but they also have much higher crime rates on average especially for violent crime. Once you control for the variable of the higher crime rate they probably are not over represented.
So what you're saying is that, all other things being equal, innocent white people are gunned down by cops more often than innocent black people?
Part of it is true - generally whites gunned down don't get the same level of media coverage. It rarely gets beyond local or regional coverage. It could be because it doesn't generate as much outrage. As a white man I cannot speak for all white men (nor should I) but when I hear about a white getting shot by cops I figure that the odds are the fucker had it coming by not complying with the cops - unless evidence turns up to the contrary. We have been down this road many times - I'm not judging because all races commit crimes. I have criminals in my family and peer group. There are probably 1,000 reasons why - but blacks as a percentage of the US population commit more violent crimes in any city or town you can name. That's just the way it is. Hopefully that will change, but until it does there's no point in denying it. It's not going to make me live somewhere else or anything.
Good question - what do multiple sources say as far as facts & statistics? If innocent blacks are gunned down more often then peaceful protest is warranted and encouraged. I do know a shit-ton more innocent blacks are gunned down by criminal blacks than by cops - by a factor of a hundred or a thousand - but that doesn't inspire much outrage.
Well here is a great (non biased) article that addresses different angles on the cops killing people situation. Not too long, and it's very informative! http://time.com/4404987/police-violence/
And just like these many white guys that are shot and never on the news, neither are stories of anti-gang activities and black schools where the teachers enforce business dress, and very little coverage on the fact that blacks women are on pace to eclipse Asians as the most collectively educated minority group in the near future. You and others like yourself cherrypick what you want outta the media the same as you accuse BLM of doing.