https://melmagazine.com/the-straight-men-who-want-nothing-to-do-with-women-2653920a42e8#.1fn1bwk57 The article is fairly long, but the cliff notes version: men think marriage is for suckas and are swearing off marriage. Some take it to extremes of celibacy even. Of all the "men's rights" issues, I do think men get royally fucked over for visitation of their children. That is certainly a fight worth waging. But much of what I've seen smacks of manchildishness.
MGTOW? They have some points when it comes to things like how divorce settlements, child custody, alimony, and such actually tend to be very heavily biased against men, and the lack of male reproductive rights, but I don't really go for the excessive whining or the weird "Imma swear off of all women" stuff of theirs. The legal stuff is something that needs to be addressed, but it's really undermined by basically everything else about the group. Kind of like Dinner posting anything about Islam.
I think a change needs to be made in the romantic relationship area. Having seen a lot of romantic couples fall apart after children or settling down it is clear to me that there are different types of romantic relationships. One is just the couple doing their thing together. There is a commitment to be there for a while and perhaps to share some property and space for convenience. Beyond that there is a further level of contracting that first relationship as the couple weeks to build wealth and have a contract for leAving and splitting up things like a house or investments. There is also the switch of legal decision making from family to spouse in the case of injury and death. This is is where the marriage contract comes in because you are combining assets and legal rights. Finally there is a very different marriage which includes the merging of families and the raising of children. This is not the same as the first two at all, and I think that is why many relationships fail when you try to change the commitment to another person into a commitment to a family unit. A lot of these guys swearing off women have a point in their expectations and desires in a relationship become different or are different from many women. They clown themselves in hateful anti women rhetoric, but they have some points about modern relationships and a new set of expectations. It does not need to be anger at women, just that they simply do not want a progression into family life, and they think as partners you do not need to get into the whole image of giving expensive rocks for the purposes of buying affection from women who do not think they are bookers because their men give them expensive jewelry, pay their way, and give them gifts so that they feel their pussy is paid for. Though they are not all women, there is an expectation from many the man is going to take on the burden of cost of the relationship. Bookers are much cheaper, and you do not need to talk about babies and let them change your entire environment because they have their own desires.
What you call childish I call being honest. Some people are just happier living alone. Far better for them to stay single than force themselves in relationships just because society deems it normal.
Oh sure, absolutely. But Captain X has a point about people going from there to all the crazy stuff and that overwhelming the simple message that everybody should embrace the life they prefer to live. Anyway, I'm all for men rejecting relationships with women. That means more selection for the rest of us.
I don't argue that, just the methods they go about it. Kinda like the child-free community that go from enjoying the freedom of not having brats to socially inept losers pitching a fit because they lost a Harry Potter costume contest and are generally nasty towards kids.
Society has always had men who never marry and just carve out their own path in life, either having lots of sex or having no sex. We've given them various names throughout the generations--hermits, bachelors, players, etc. This isn't really anything new. However, the internet has given a voice to various conspiracy theory nutjobs, and suddenly a bachelor lifestyle goes hand in hand with the delusional war against white men. If they want to lead a negative lifestyle, go for it. It's probably not healthy, but it's their lives. I'm glad their genes will be sorted out of the gene pool.
is it just me, or is "beta/cuck" the new way of calling a dude a "fag"? the implication he's submissive or a weaker, lesser man is pretty much the same image we're meant to conjure.
Yeah, it seems like it's meant to replace "fag". However, it sounds incredibly stupid. If anyone uses the term, it's quite helpful because I know that I can write off whatever else they say. I also don't get why it's supposed to be an insult.
There's a big difference between deciding not to date or marry and "wanting nothing to do with women." The first is a lifestyle choice; the second is just more of the usual misogynist idiocy.
I think it's more that any woman other then the timid, pixie girl that fills their fantasies intimidates and frightens them. @Anna pegged it: Manchildren.
I see beta and cuck as two different things. Beta differ to someone else instead of standing up for themselves. Cuck's know their mate is fooling around, they don't like it but are afraid to do anything about it. I personally prefer someone who will stand beside me. And yes I also think less of those who don't stand up for themselves. But live how you want, and don't bother with what I think. As I don't care what you think of my lifestyle.
I don't know if the "2D is better than 3D" thing is really an improvement, especially considering how obsessive some of them get with that "waifu" shit. Like, to the point that their fictional cartoon girlfriend has to be "pure."
Beta is the wrong term for what they are trying to portray. They should be using omega if I am not mistaken. That would be the pack member who's place is to be picked on by the rest. A beta can stand up for itself, but it is not the alpha. However, that might be beyond the education level of most alt right neo Nazis.
I'm not sure if some of the things you've said here and in the other response to me aren't bait.... So ... yea ...
I think it's really freaking awesome that those guys are not having kids. We really don't need to retain their genetic code in the gene pool.
