what you'll see is a fully developed cleptocracy. the whole cabinet will be too busy filling their coffers even more to do any real damage. yes, certainly they'll destroy things an the way. like, the school system (poor kids oughta work in the coal mines anyway). they'll also wreak havoc on the environment. but it'll be easy to spot the pattern. cui bono? there you go.
Plenty of people also think copper bracelets will heal them of their arthritis. It doesn't make them any less ignorant, or any more correct.
We're glad you get it. The pleb revolt may have been narrowly successful, but it's far from fashionable.
I think it's going to be a clusterfuck of monumental proportions. If I'm wrong, great. I would love to be wrong. If I'm right, well, I can always mosey off to a place less shambolic.
Yes I noticed that too - all the democrats are perfect, only the republicans are the fly in the ointment of a perfect political system. That's why my response is
Which wonderfully illustrates the point I was making. Congratulations. Now apply that same logic to the shit people are saying about Trump. And it's looped back on itself.
category smatagory, if you don't like any of those descriptions then skip them - You've done a lot of gloating since the election so presumably he hs some grace period with you...how far does that extend? When do you say "maybe those goddamn liberals had a point?"
a very fair statement and in the course of normal events, true. But do you remember the right wingers 8 years ago who were absolutely sure Obama would refuse to leave office when his term was over and declare marshal law? I do. Yes, they were Alex Jones type flakes, but they were there. So let's agree Obama wasn't a socialist dictator and Bush wasn't a fascist as so many on the left suggested - hell let's further agree that Trump isn't either (I really don't for a second think that he is, just that the odds are greater than they've ever been) even though I think there's a strong possibility that he will either (a) completely renege on what his supporters thought they were getting, or (b) do something really fucking heinous (in the eyes of the vast majority) before he's out. Let's just say it's not Trump we're talking about for the sake of your reply. What happens when the system fails and we really do get a dictator type in their, with a lapdog Congress that won't stand up to him (or her)? Are we forever doomed to "hope for the best" because none dare say "this is kind of a Hitler-like thing he's doing"?
well yeah, because asking my about her trail of dead bodies would be the equivilant of asking me about her string of best selling porn films.
Fair enough, but is it not also true that we weather it as a country BECAUSE even partisans come to a place where they say "I cannot go with you further"? Wasn't that basically the endgame of Watergate? Let's say, just for example, that Trump issued an executive order that all Muslims would be expelled from the country - you know and I know that a certain minority in this country would say "Good! Fuck 'em! We don't need them here!" I'm of the opinion that enough Republicans, in Congress and in the electorate, would stand in opposition so that it would fail but NOT ALL would. That's the thought that promoted the thread - how far can he go, what can he get away with, and enough conservative/Republicans collectively shrug that he can get away with it? Whether we frame that as open profiteering and corruption (which they are already ignoring fervently) or violations of civil rights, or recklessly starting a war, or whatever - I'm trying not to define terms (exceptto say that routine political disagreements like "he appointed the wrong judge" or whatever) - I'm just wondering what he could get away with before he loses his own party.
plenty of people believe Obama and Hillary are actual demons from hell that smell like death too, because they are too stupid to recognize that Alex Jones is batshit fucking insane.
That would be an interesting thread if framed in a non-partisan manner. Get Trump supporters on record as what would make them drop support for him, and Trump opponents on what would make them begrudgingly (or optimistically) actually support him. Unfortunately the way this thread is presented it comes off as "hey guys, step into this trap so you can have GOTCHA called on you at some point in the future"..
I'll list five things that if President Trump does or does not do that I'll stop supporting him and support another Republican running against him for the nomination in 2020. Or three out of five to make it fair: 1) If Trump fails to make a serious effort to reduce illegal immigration. Whether its build a wall, a fence, or a virtual wall I don't care. He has to do something and make at least a noticeable dent in illegal immigration to the United States. 2) If Trump fails to manage the federal role in the U.S. economy correctly and he doesn't have economic growth of above 2% annually for at least three out of four years. 3) If Trump fails to confront Chinese and Russian aggression and aggressive stances in the South China Sea and Eastern Europe respectively. 4) If Trump fails to appoint conservative judge(s) to the Supreme Court in the Scalia mode. 5) If Trump fails to inflict serious losses to ISIS and other terrorist groups around the world Satisfied.?
Looked up her skirt, did you? Or is that what you're training your kids to do, per your comments in the other thread?