Define your context, carefully. The United States Supreme Court has decided on a non-exhaustive list of phrases that would provoke a violent response in a reasonable person. They call these "fighting words." Thus, the target of the "fighting words" would not be guilty of assault even though they threw the first punch. It's viewed as mutual combat, which, generally, is not against the law.
mutual combat? In my county if you're in a fight (especially out in public) the cops aren't playing that shit - you're almost certainly getting cuffed & stuffed.
The police can arrest for whatever they want. That doesn't mean it's a legal arrest. Our local police arrested two men for fighting in a Dollar General yesterday. I read the report this morning and denied all the charges and released the men from jail. The arrest will make the local paper. The denial and release won't.
Seriously? Nobody's making any money from just releasing guys from jail like that! Court fees, bond fees, the fine itself, the subsequent probation fees, towing their car away fees unless they walked to the Dollar Store, and let's not forget lawyer fees. You do some crazy shit like fighting in a store like that and you better just open your wallet because Columbia County Georgia is going to empty it! So you might as well try to beat somebody half to death because you're going to get fucked by the system anyway so you might as well get your money's worth. Nobody gets a lucky break like these guys got here.
It happens every day across the country. You just don't know about it. Arrests make headlines. Denials don't. Even the men I released didn't fully understand it until I talked them through it via Zoom.
Wow - different approach I guess. Georgia is all about that money. Per capita more people on probation than any other state. They don't want you necessarily behind bars for too long, they just want you in the system and generating mo money, mo money, mo money for as many people as possible. Georgia No. 1 for most people on probation or parole | Atlanta Daily World
There's also a reason I keep a bottle of whiskey and two old fashioned glasses in a desk drawer. After some of the stupid I have to deal with, I just need a drink. I had a woman today demanding a warrant because her mail carrier, whose name she does not know, is a secret CIA agent. The alleged undercover postal worker has bugged her house and taken video of her for the purposes of uploading it to the CIA and NSA so they can arrest her and put her in a camp without trial. After becoming belligerent. I had to have the police escort her out of the building.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/14/woman-killed-in-supermarket-for-telling-man-to-wear-a-mask/ I'm starting to think that if these fuck head right wingers want to pretend to be William Wallace in the movie yelling "FREEDOM!", they should do it while their guts are being pulled out by a hook...like William Wallace in the movie.
What someone subjectively "deserves," and what you are empowered to mete out with no consequences for yourself, are two very different things. Once again, you do not get to dilute "fighting words" to cover everything you don't want to hear, any more than you can do it with the concepts of incitement and menacing. And no, calling you mean names ( ) does not ring the bell. "I'm going to beat your ass/kill you" does. Select a silly rep icon if you concede in shame.
Derek Chauvin got 22.5 years for murdering George Floyd. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/us/derek-chauvin-22-and-a-half-years-george-floyd.html
Good start. Let's hear about the fuckers who tased a 16-year old kid for hanging out on his girlfriend's porch (before they knew they could pin a BS possession charge on him) https://local12.com/news/nation-wor...r-tasing-teen-who-was-in-girlfriends-backyard Or the cunts who tased a kid for vaping. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...police-use-taser-teen-enforce-vaping-n1270668 Let's hear all these small dick excuses for men cry like babies as they get treated like the folk they thought they could oppress and get away with it.
He wasn't convicted of 1st degree murder, so I don't think that would have been a possible sentence. From what I read, the average sentence is like 12 or so years, and the max he faced was like 30.
More's the pity. I can understand second-degree when the killer shoots the victim and it's over in an instant. But when you're choking somebody to death over the course of several minutes, calmly ignoring all the people who are telling you that you're killing him, I think the line to premeditation gets crossed somewhere.
At first I thought 2nd degree was a reach, but I've become more in agreement with the argument for 1st degree. As it was, the prosecutors ran the table and if the sentence wasn't as much as it coulda/shoulda/woulda been, even if Chauvin gets out in 15, he'll still be 60 years old and will have spent the prime of his life in the can. Hopefully, this case lays a roadmap for future cop prosecutions.
The trouble is proving beyond a reasonable doubt that Derek Chauvin thought even for a second something along the lines of "I am killing this person by putting my knee on his neck, and I'm cool with that." It is certainly possible that he thought that. But it is also possible that he thought "This isn't hurting him, this guy is being all dramatic" or "I've knelt on the necks of people and it hasn't caused any problems then, so I don't see why it would be causing a problem now." To be clear, that is messed up thinking but it is not the level of intentional wrongdoing that 1st degree requires.
That's the "benefit of the doubt" I was entertaining too, but even at that it shows serious sociopathy, or even psychopathy, to do such a thing - no less in front of a crowd with cameras.
Build some big ol' state nut huts and bring back involuntary civil commitment, or STFU about mental health crises.
