CRT tangent from political meme thread and Cis tangent from Musk thread

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  1. mburtonk

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    I'm still unclear on
    - who Texasforge should vote for
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  2. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    You might not have noticed this, but I'm not an ally. I've seen what you expect of allies.

    I support human rights. EVERYONE's human rights. No, I don't prioritize by assumed levels of victimhood. Your rights end were someone else's begin. Period.

    I maintain my own moral sense. I don't cede that to anyone else.

    I maintain my own voice. I won't silence it for anyone else.

    Allies are explicitly told they must do both.

    So no, I am most definitely not an ally.

    I will continue to vote and support people who stand for civil rights.

    You know, like Beto. Who is actually fighting to protect the very existence of Trans people in the state of Texas - and because this is likely to go to SCOTUS, in virtually every red state in the country.
    You'll note my comment was about being called a pedophile, which I was on this board by a trans person because I thought that someone else's rights were just as important and shouldn't be ceded.

    Equal rights is absolutely justice.

    If you think pointing out you hypocrisy on such an issue is the same thing as actually doing it, you are grotesquely mistaken.

    If you think being misgendered is worse than the accusation of being a rapist who fucks children, you are grotesquely mistaken.

    You just reserve that right for yourself. The epitome of hypocrisy.

    I will note that once again I see the far left and the far right using the same tactics. The Qanon folk LOVE to call anyone who disagrees with them a pedophile. It's inherently dehumanizing.

    That's why that community - and yours - does it.

    Your human rights were in no way infringed. No one misgendered you or deadnamed you. You are lying. It's an obvious lie.

    You just felt threatened that someone brought up the topic when pointing out your rampant hypocrisy, and to you, that feeling is the same thing as it actually happened.

    But then, the concept of microagressions does come from CRT.

    But in your interpretation of it, it just works one way. We just saw this. You act as if stating that you wouldn't like it if someone misgendered you is actually more invalid than the express act of calling someone a child rapist without cause.

    Again, rampant, grotesque hypocrisy.
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Okay, Albert.
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  4. Uncle Albert

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    I did appreciate that line. :techman:
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  5. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    dude, you epitomize that line. Never seen someone so overwrought by things that don't affect him.

    FWIW, this was the one that I identified with

    I kind of prefer "accomplice". End goals may be the same, but what motivates us is individual.
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  6. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    OK, normal MAoHS. You do not stop being prejudice just because someone insults you. You can call someone a jerk without misgendering them or using some racist or bigoted terms. Obviously this is not a problem for you because clearly you see not being a bigoted fuck as something that you give someone else, and not something you are.

    I do not go around calling some blacvk person the N word because they call me names. That is because the N word is not something I pull out to punish black people.

    Thank you for exposing your mindset and how you really think. I knew the prejudice was strong in you. Fucking POS.
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  7. steve2^4

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    Maybe he's just having a bad day. I usually annoy my wife when I do, but he might not be able to.
  8. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    OMG, here it goes. We should all bow down to @Demiurge and never criticize him because he used the proper pronoun. You are right, you are not an ally. If having to be nice to you all the time is the cost of you not being a bigoted fuck, then go eat a bag of dicks. No one needs a POS like you that much.

    You just gave the best reason in the world to not trust or be nice to you. You are a bigoted fuck who dangles a fake decency in front of people like a carrot, but now it is exposed you are really prejudiced on the inside. This is exactly what is wrong with the supposed moderate white person. That nasty bigot is just right under the surface waiting for an excuse to come out. You are a fucking Karen just waiting for an excuse to lay into some homophobic and transphobic tirade because someone says something mean to you in the red room.

    I will give good odds that there is racism and sexism back there too. You are just a karen waiting for an excuse, and you are blatantly saying it.

    At least UA does not fool around with pretenses. He is a fucking deplorable fuck. You are worse than he is because you pretend to be an ally, but when you think the others are not around all of a sudden the N word starts flying, you start bragging about grabbing women by the pussy, and you start shitting on GLBT people because that is what is really inside.

    You wonder why people get sick of your moderate backstabbing. We know what you are, and you fool no one for long.
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  9. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    If I am having a bad day and some black family comes up to me and tries to start a fight, I do not start spouting the N word at them because I am pissed off. Not that I won't give them a good lesson in profanity, but I do not become a racist just because I happen to not like a black person.

    I am sure @Demiurge knows a number of colorful metaphors and he could double dumbass on anyone he wanted to. Instead the threat comes to be nice or he will misgender you. Agree with him or he will misgender you.

    He should just pull the trigger and stop threatening people with releasing the Karen within. If you have a Karen within then you are a fucking karen.
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  10. steve2^4

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    You're right.

    But we white guys all have a suppressed Karen. It's the society we were raised in.
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  11. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I think my sassy gay dude threw that bitch out the first time I sucked chocolate cock at the glory hole.
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  12. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Your wife has never once stated she finds me annoying, Steve.
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  13. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    there's a pill for that
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  14. steve2^4

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    this explains her cheerfulness as of late.

    ...and her whitened teeth.
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  15. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    You can't make this shit up...

    No actual CRT examples seem to have been provided. However, they're also attacking the ideas presented such as:


    maybe they weren't appropriately segregated?
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  16. TheLonelySquire

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    Do you equate someone calling you a male with someone calling a black person the N-word? Are you that sensitive?
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  17. Ten Lubak

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    This you?


    Hilarious :lol:
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  18. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    @Uncle Albert and @Federal Farmer are overjoyed.
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  19. Uncle Albert

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    Can't say that I am. Too shifty on the specifics. Also had to hunt for a succinct description of this "essentialism."

    Obviously, I reject that outright.
  20. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    :lol: if you seriously believe that 40% of maths textbooks were part of some racial agenda.
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  21. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    we'd tend to agree on that then.

    racial essentialism throughout European history in particular has wrought havoc, eventually manifesting in the holocaust. All that Wagnerian opera? Germanic essentialism.

    but...

    whereas Black Africans have traceable national/cultural identities, Blacks in North America generally don't. The essentials are no longer so specific and so shareable experience has to rely on far broader concepts.

    I don't think either really applies here, despite whatever DeSantis is trying to dogwhistle. What the examples do show is what's called SEL, or Social and Emotional Learning. Demonstrating the use of empathy and cooperative strategizing in problem solving.
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    Agreed. But I don’t think I actually believe that’s what was in the books, given the lack of examples. I think they’re just trying to pretend their stupid new law matters.
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  23. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Looking into it a bit further (hard since they haven't released a ton of details), it seems like the majority of refusals are probably related to Florida legislating their own math teaching methods that differ from US standards, with some being rejected for ambiguous racial topics reasons, and then them focusing on that as the rationale because it's red meat for their base.
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    And the Right has pretty much openly declared that they believe empathy is bad, so ...
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  25. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Empathy is irrelevant why would anyone give a shit about what others think how dare you try to force me to consider others leave my freedom alone.
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  26. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    We have a certain poster who's made that concept his whole personality.
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    Yabut what else would you playing when you need to kill the wabbit? :chris:
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    maybe this? I dunno...



    but yeah, it may be more of a deep dive to many than I'd considered when following the rather direct line of 1850s pan-germanism (of which Wagner was pretty much the soundtrack of) through to the end of their imperial era and the fall into fascism...
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    I love that version.
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    this oughta brighten your day

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