The Don't Say Gay bill

Tell me then, oh great and mighty Oz - who put the idea in MY head?

I knew what sort of identity I had before my sixth birthday - in rural Mississippi, in the 1960's, while being raised in church every time the doors were open and "parented" by a man who spent my entire childhood and adult life with unconcealed contempt that his oldest wasn't a manly-man sort that like hunting and working on cars and various other masculine bullshit.

A man that went to considerable effort to "toughen me up" - and a mother who never saw fit to interfere with that (no offense to my mom, she was mostly great)

Who?
My story is typical, routine, boring, common among trans people.

WHO convinced me when I was five years old in 1969 that really deep down inside I was supposed to have been a girl?

Show your goddamn work.

Well that's convincing since we all know that social media has never been a vehicle for some goof talking out of their ass.

What's this obsession with Tim Pool?

Either you knowingly get all your shit from him, or you have subconscious telepathy with him.

Wrong again, I don't watch or listen to his podcast.

Video transcript:
“...that is why I must discuss a very public part of my identity. This characteristic has probably become the first thing you think of when you think of me as a human being. As you know [speaker removes graduation cap to reveal his hair], I have curly hair. [laughter and applause from audience]. I used to hate my curls. I spent mornings and nights embarrassed of them, trying desperately to straighten this part of who I am [audience chuckles]. But the daily damage of trying to fix myself became too much to do.

So, while having curly hair in Florida is difficult due to the humidity [more chuckles from the crowd], I decided to be proud of who I was. I started coming to school as my authentic self. Here it was Miss Ballard who answered my questions because I didn’t have other curly haired people to talk to. It was Mr. Pauling who read essays about curls costing me an opportunity that I really wanted. It was my friends that told me that curls look good on me, and that I should stop hiding them. It was a messy and twisted growth process, but eventually I did it.

It’s because of the love I’ve drawn from this community that I came out to my family. [speaker pauses, getting emotional, then raises his hand and puts his hand to his chest, brushing the microphone] Now, I’m happy. Now I’m happy. [speaker pauses again, voice cracking as he continues] And that is what is at stake. There are going to be so many kids who have curly hair who need a community like Pine View and they won’t have one. Instead, they’ll try to fix themselves so that they can exist in Florida’s humid climate.

I’ve been preparing for this speech since I was elected my freshman year. Do you think that I wanted it to be about this? It needs to be about this, for the thousands of curly haired kids who are going to be forced to speak like this for their entire lives as students. …”

just the beginning...

Don’t you feel silly voting Republican for all those years?

Jesus, Jenee!

The state of this country did not happen in a vacuum. People who suddenly are in a situation in which their liberties are being tread on are suddenly finding a voice to fight back. Yes, I know Nova’s history. Doesn’t change the fact that she did vote and argued here for years against social safety nets.

Silly is really not the right word. But even then I was aware enough to see what the real agenda was, I was just brainwashed enough to think it was a good idea.

Not sure I can agree with that. Safety nets were not then and are not now the central issues, which are two:

Oligarchy Predator Class sucking all the wealth out of society - which I was deceived about given all that Reagan/Laffer bullshit.

Christian Nationalist moralism - which I was well aware of and supported because if they were right about that, then I didn't have to STAY....broken...God was gonna fix me any minute now and I wouldn't have to be one of "them"

Realizing THAT was a lie pulled the keystone out of the entire structure.

The rest of the GOP - abortion, environment, "welfare" - shit was just tribalism, if the people on my side said it then it must be reliable.

I had my bad views when I was a young stupid kid. I was taught that we did all this great stuff to make black people equal to whites, but they were just lazy and hated america for the past. It does sound somewhat reasonable when you do not have any experience, and all the people who do are telling you that. I thought it was terrible that I had to learn spanish because I was in america and we speak english here. I don't go to mexico and say they have to speak english.

Then I started working. School and college was all white kids, but when I started working I met people and I was so lied to and sheltered from the truth. Even my high school best friend's family who was really black did not talk shit about whitey around me. They were nice and inviting. I did not speak up with any of the bullshit from the white, but they never filled my head with this anti-white rhetoric. The racism kept popping up, and because I started to know more different people it sickened me.

Because I had friends everywhere I was brought into the other bubbles. When I was at TWC doing their tier 1 PC and TV support I did not want to be promoted to tier 3 because I liked the majority hispanic and black women I was working with, and tier 3 was all white boys. It is not that I did not like white boys, but I am already in that bubble and there was something about keeping up with the women on the TV side that was missing in white boy land.

Social safety nets has always been a huge issue and the left have been having to defend them since their implementation back in the 1930s. I, also, was raised in a white, Christian, suburban, middle class household. But, I do remember questioning from a very young age all the bs they cried about.

I know, I was allowed a bit of freedom, whether by indulgence or negligence from my parents, I couldn’t tell you. But, I can tell you, nothing has changed my mind just because it now affects me.

I understand your situation. It just doesn’t make it easier to digest. Especially since I had to join the military just to get off welfare because if I worked a minimum wage job more than 29.5 hours a week, I was kicked off Medicaid and I couldn’t do that because I had a child with COPD who was hospitalized and in an oxygen tent every winter.

Course, if I had known that's what was going on, I would have asked Shepherd 1. Why hasn't it happened already? 2. doesn't it strike you that everyone who's "fixed" talks like brain-scrambled Soren from TNG?

the presumption is that if you are closeted and God miraculously fixes you, no one else neer needs to know you were broken or perverted to begin with. I don't mean "fixed" by, like, an exorcism or whatever...just god doing you a solid.

And yes, what eventually allowed me to confront the lies first in my own mind is that I'd been toeing the line, going above and beyond, being a super gee-whiz golly-gosh top shelf Christian Man(tm) for 20 years, spending a lot of quiet time crying "to" him "What more must I do? What's taking so long?" and eventually I had to reach that exact conclusion:
If he REALLY didn't want me to be this way, he's had plenty of time to intervene and fix it - and if he elected not to, basically answering my prayers with "sucks to be you" then - that too is a deal breaker.

Had the term "Nazi file clerk" pop in my head, and my subconscious mind is pretty good at telling me what to investigate.
It's like I have a little Riddler living in my head.
So, I ran a search, and lo and behold.

Here's 14 years younger UA fighting with BearTM.

He may as well be fighting his older self.
It's eerie.

http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/1733102/

http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/1733111/

http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/1733143/

http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/1733191/

And here's Bear's nickname back.
He wasn't very creative.
Can't say I miss him.
http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/1733144/

Nothing I said then is incompatible with anything I have said since. That's just you setting your own silly terms and patting yourself on the back for matching them.

I knew you'd say that.
You're a gymnast as self-justifying and denial.

Everyone else can/will see what 14 years of sliding down the ramp of dissonance avoidance has done to you.
Its turned you into Bear.

Anyway, tell the ghost of 2008 UA I miss him.
He was a fun guy you could talk about shows with without it being a soul-draining haranguing about "SJWs" and "empowered wimminz!"

Not sure what you're implying here. UA looks decidedly liberal in those posts.

I know, right?

No one put the idea in your head. Your brain is hard wired to be what it is. It doesn't matter how your exterior presents. that's biology and genetics. your gender sits in your hypothalamus. You can't "change" what you are.

What's interesting about this is how many trans on both sides don't bother with reassignment surgery, just adopt the visual norms that let society "accept" you.

If you really think about things it is not actually that hard to imagine. First, surgery is expensive. That is just the genital surgery. The genitals are the last place people see unless you are trying to wear a women's bathing suit or actually undressed in front of someone. Hair removal, breasts, and expensive things like feminine styling of the hair, face, and nails are all expensive and a lot more important in passing than something no one is going to see but you and people you might be intimate with. Then you also need to buy a whole new wardrobe. If you do not have a lot of funds you have to chose between SRS genital surgery and other things that would help you pass.

If you have not stopped secondary gender characteristics from becoming real, there is not a whole lot surgery can do to change things like Man hands, height, larger bone structure, and other things. Genital surgery does not give you an actual functioning reproductive system. If you are not sexually active you might get further on your own track focusing on other areas.

You do a lot of stuff to reflect who you are in other people's perception because that becomes a large part of how you view yourself. We see ourselves in how others see us, so passing becomes important. So maybe if you are passing that brings you to a closer place to being. It seems like you are trying to align your mind with how others perceive you when really it is much more internal where you are trying to align yourself with yourself. If you get to that place where you feel like the girl you are, or vice versa, then you might not need to go further. Those are personal choices.

And you will as usual back that up with absolutely fucking nothing. Your opinions are just objective truth.

No, opposing some conservative dickbag does not automatically make me a liberal, any more than the reverse would be true.

You people can stop projecting your binary thinking on me any time.

Very well said.

Oooooh, Jenee is "you people" now.
Yikes.

I love it when he uses cute nicknames.