Alex Jones found guilty in Connecticut Sandy Hook defamation case.

Yeah was hoping for it to be much more than that

However now that one family has been successful in suing Jones for damages are all the other families able to do the same?

Also, if jurors decide tomorrow that he owes punitive damages, that amount is capped at 2 times the compensatory damages awarded today.

Totally agree. It'll be interesting to see the punitive damages. I'd love to see this asshole busted out of business, however, a smaller amount that he can actually pay might head off his bankruptcy and leave some meat on his fat carcass for other plaintiffs. However, seeing him shit himself on TV is of some value by itself. The fact that the plaintiff's lawyers didn't bend over backwards to give back the texts may have been the result of karma. Apparently Jones's lawyers are not just schmucks in the actual courtroom, they seem to be assholes when it comes to the out of court procedures where so much of the unglamorous but important work gets done. It's one thing to deal with a hardass lawyer who doesn't mind hitting right at the belt, but not below it, it may be quite another to deal with four flushers who deal off the bottom of the deck and then say "what're you gonna do about it?"

Every dollar he made since his first broadcast calling this a hoax should be split between the families of the murdered children. If he can’t pay it, then he must continue to work and pay off that debt.

If there was such a thing as "justice" he could spend the rest of his life in prison paying off a billion dollar assessment by breaking rocks at a dollar per rock.

Nah, he'd spend the rest of his life cleaning up after mass shootings (you know, helping put the corpses in the body bags, etc.) at schools. He'd only be able to do his radio show after he'd cleaned up a scene, the rest of the time he'd be in a jail cell, or traveling to the next shooting scene. His only hope for release would be if there were two years in a row, with no school shootings. Fat-ass Howard Beale wannabe would be begging for guns to be banned on air, every time he got to speak.

Oh, and supposedly this trial has revealed that Jones lied to his ex-wife about his income, so her lawyers are probably getting ready to nail him as well.

She tweeted this yesterday.



She also tweeted that she's been informally interviewed by the January 6th committee.

Bernard Goetz, the 80's subway shooter, has to pay millions to his victims more than he has, or ever will have.
Basically, the judge said "if Goetz wins the lottery, you win the lottery".
If they can do it to poor people, they should do it to rich people.
None of this "oh, it should hurt, but they should still get to be rich" shit.
No, double or even triple their entire fortune so they can never even be rich again.

The rich have convinced a huge segment of our population that them getting slightly less rich is the most horrible thing that could possibly happen.

This was a piece published unironically in a major Australian newspaper today:

@Chaos Descending is happy. I'm really looking forward to hearing his reaction to this.

It'll be a bunch of batshit Christian lunacy that actually goes against everything Christ said, just like all his fucking posts.

Make it up in your own head.

God said it's OK to kill Jews, deep-fry them and then fuck the crispy remains.

Anyone who knows me (hopefully) knows that I'm no fan of Alex Jones or his politics or anything about him.

But I am a fan of free speech and as repugnant as his speech was, I don't know if a verdict of $4 million in compensatory damages.

The idea that the parents' lives were made so much worse by Jones's shitty and false statements that $4 million is a fair estimate of what it would take to make them whole...that seems like a lot to me.

He didn't say their asses smell cuz they don't wipe, he said they're part of a conspiracy to take guns away, and their kids didn't really die.
That shit puts them in danger from Qanon whackos.
That easily falls into the "fire in a crowded theater" territory.
"Free speech" my ass.

Didn’t he also send people to their houses? That’s definitely crossing the line and I say that as someone who has no doubt the CIA is not above false flag operations.

They had to hire security because his whackjob supporters threatened them. Whilst they were suffering from the trauma of THEIR KIDS DYING.

$4 million is a fucking START.

Regardless of whether or not they were in danger, Jones basically dehumanized their child. And that absolutely does not fall under free speech.

The thing I was meaning to raise was not was it free and nondefamatory speech to say the shitty things he did but rather how much is the damage Jones did worth?

$4 million is in other contexts "someone got killed" money.

Now to punish Jones for saying what he said, that would be different. Punitive damages are to teach him a lesson, and given that he was raking in $200k and as much as $800k a day, the money to make Jones feel the sting and to deter others like him would have to be in the multimillions.

I'd consider someone calling me a liar about my kid dying and millions of twats listening to them and sending me death threats to be as bad as my kid actually being killed, since I not only have to relive it daily but also have to contend with people saying my kid wasn't real.

So again, $4 million is a baseline.

This.

In the same way that when someone is murdered, holding an investigation to find out who committed the murder is the baseline.

I’m glad I was wrong about the punitive damages being capped.

Alex Jones ordered to pay $49.3M total over Sandy Hook lies

Still not enough, but if the other Sandy Hook parents get the same amount...

You hate to see it

Hold up.

I don't know about today, but one of the most famous liable cases (Pre-Sulivan) was the case of WW II war correspondent Quentin Reynolds versus Hearst Newspaper columnist Westbrook Pegler. Pegler absolutely savaged Reynolds in a series of columns. Reynolds was represented by famed attorney Louis Nizer. The jury awarded Reynolds a relatively small amount of actual damages, but awarded a then-record amount of punitive damages. My thought was that Reynolds was such a sterling character that the jury thought even Pegler couldn't do him that much actual harm, but they socked it to him with punitive damages for being an asshole. But the interesting point is that Nizer wrote that (at the time) actual damages were taxable, but punitive damages were not. Any tax experts here who can comment?

Alex will never actually be broke or poor. He has the biggest ghroup of gullible idiots on his hook. Religious fundies will always work for money to give to the lie peddlers. He has his hooks in the biggest group of gullible idiots willing to donate for his lies in the US. That is millions of people who would beg, borrow, and steal to give him all of their money. Some of his people give him millions at a time.

The only ways to punish alex himself is jail and a tortuous death. Even shooting him in the face and killing him is way to kind as it instantly puts him to rest. OK, taking some of his money will make him sad because he is greedy and there can never be enough for a greedy person, but they will always give him more money and gifts. So even if you took all of his earned money from here on out his followers would pay his way to have a studio, huge house, and all the food that blob can shovel into his shithole.

The pile of money is endless because sheeple can be fleeced daily. You also cannot kill millions of people without doing a war or the genocide thing.

I would also point out that killing Alex does not stop the problem as it only means a new head grows on the white terrorist american beast. At least with Alex we have done everything possible to spread the word about him so all the sheeple who are on his side are the minimum we can do. Someone else would look much more sane and they would have to fight to free sheeple from them.

Bro, he called them crisis actors and sicced his rabid fans to harrass them for the past DECADE.

This was already in the realm of slander as it is, dont "free speech" this

And I wouldn't doubt that there are still true believers out that that are going to harass and threaten those parents for the rest of their lives. So the cost of security for the survivors, the cost of security for the dead kids graves, the cost of counselling and therapy for the survivors, compensation for the damage done to their reputations and career prospects... I don't think there's a price too high for Jones to pay, even before you get into the concept of punishing him so hard that his imitators think twice before making similar accusations.