The Orville [SPOILERS WITHIN]

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    So, FF, if you didn't like this season, why did you keep watching?
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    Huh?
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    This guy has jokes.
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    You've been shitting on it almost from the beginning, and instead of saying, "Nah, I've got more important shit to do." you just kept watching and complaining. And watching, and complaining. Not once did it ever cross your mind to just give up.
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    Have you been drinking? I absolutely loved this show until season three.

    Oh, look. Here's a post from 2017:

    Feel free to comb through the rest of thread and prove yourself wrong. Asshat.
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  6. Tuckerfan

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    Let me just highlight a recent comment I made
    Please note that I didn't say "series" but "season." Your response was, and I quote
    To which I said that you've been shitting on it since the beginning. How you made the leap from "season" to "series," when just the post before I'd said "season" is a mystery. If I'd have thought you were shitting on the series from the get-go, I would have said that, since not only would that be a shift in the subject from the narrow topic to the wider one, it would have provided even greater material to jab at you with.

    Now, the question remains: Are you going to admit that you went off half-cocked, or like some other posters I could name, are you going to double down on your stupidity?
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    Hey! I've been shitting on this season far, far harder than anyone and I demand recognition!
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    So, Episode 10.

    Why couldn't the rest of the season have been like this one? Humor and seriousness were well-balanced, some nice call-backs to earlier episodes, and best of all, She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named wasn't mentioned once; it was like she never existed.

    100/100

    Score recap:

    1: 2/100
    2: 3.5/100
    3: 2/100
    4: 1/100
    5: 68/100
    6: 5/100
    7: 0.4/100
    8: 17/100
    9: 99/100
    10: 100/100

    Season 3 Average Score: 29.79/100

    Season 3 Median Score Because Outliers: 4.25/100

    Season 3 Average of Averages Because Small Sample Size: It's been ten years since I took the dumbed-down statistics class for psychology students, so I don't remember how to do that or if it even applies here. Even if I did and it does, seems like a lot of work when I can just say: Shit/100

    Conclusion: If Seth MacFarlane and Anne Winters (especially Anne Winters) can be held criminally liable for this season sucking so hard, I think I'll change my stance on the death penalty to "in favor of" in just this one instance.
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    Episode 10 felt like a Game of Thrones season, in which the previous episode had the climactic drama/battle and now we're in a sort of epilogue.

    There's no plausible way that Isaac should have expected all the Kaylon units to attend his wedding. He lovingly fumbles with cultural etiquette, not basic geometry. So that was stupid.

    Otherwise it was a fine episode.

    They could make more seasons with the Krill as the renewed baddies with their Moclan allies, and use Ed's daughter as a point of drama, but it's probably best that they wrap up the show at this point. Either that or introduce a bunch of new characters and scenarios to avoid repetition.
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    She's like 5'0 or 5'1. I'm surprised if she ever was a model. I thought they were generally going to have to be 5'8 or taller. Unless there's a line of Short & Small clothes
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  11. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Not to speak for WAB, but there is a difference between saying "Man, this season isn't as good as it should be/used to be" and "This series sucks from the get go because the creators are woke idiots who don't care about the property." In the latter case, there really is no point in continuing to watch, because there's exactly zero chance that the creators are suddenly going to be less political or more knowledgeable about the franchise.

    In the former case, you know that the writers are capable of good episodes and it's reasonable to hope that they can course-correct.

    Also, it can be pretty idiosyncratic as to when to quit a show. The Flash has sucked for a while. I still have it on my DVR but I haven't bothered to watch an episode since the middle of the Armageddon arc this season and I didn't watch most of S7. Other shows I'll hatewatch to the bitter end. It doesn't really make sense to waste time on bad genre shows when, through streaming, I can watch basically most of sci-fi ever. But I still do.
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    Things are changing all over. Short women are being filmed at their actual height in movies. Short women can be flight attendants. Short women can be models.

    Average height for women is 5’4”. The fashion industry is mostly ruled by gay men and from the 60s through the 90s models were made to look like gay men. If that’s your thing, cool. But, the average woman isn’t buying those clothes.
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    This. Thank you.

    Same reason why I stuck with The Walking Dead for probably 3-4 more seasons than I should have. Started off as an amazing show that went right down the tubes after 6 seasons. I gave up around season 9 or 10, because they were never able to recapture that magic (although I continued to hope, in vain). Part of the secret of television shows is knowing when to quit.
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    Wait...didn't I already see the finale? Cassidy Yates married her vibrator, right?
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    Yes. I'm guessing this is aimed at D+ viewers who haven't seen it yet.
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    It wasn't too bad, though any episode where Charly isn't airlocked loses a ton of points.

    I'm still missing the S1/S2 humor, though. Without it The Orville feels like store-brand Trek.
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    Goddamn Anne Winters is a shit actress.

    The Kaylon/Janisi episode was okay but once again they pushed the run time past what it should've been. A tighter story would've made the episode stronger. The pacing for this season is not good.
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    Just saw a D+ commercial promoting The Orville.
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    I've only watched up through episode 5, and I don't get all the hate. Sure, the third episode was a stinker (it honestly felt like one of those TOS episodes where they were just using preexisting sets to save on budget), but the other episodes have been great. Episode 5 especially, considering it's been a few seasons in the making.

    Though, I do agree the episodes have been a little too long and Charlie sucks. I heard that Seth MacFarlane is dating the actress who plays Charlie, which worked out so well for him last time...
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    It's annoying that there isn't a Skip Intro option for this series.
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    EP 8: I love Dolly Parton, but that part was pretty cringey. And too long, like nearly every episode so far this season. Good story, just too much of it.

    EP 9: Best Episode Evar. So long, Charly. Nobody--and I mean nobody--will miss you. Horrible, horrible actress who sounds like a 12-year old trying to act like a grownup.


    BTW, I will absolutely cut somebody if the show gets a fourth season and they have Charly come back (because Seth is banging her) due to some quantum core/technobabble fluke that sent her through time or some shit. :ualbert: :shakefist:
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    This. :yes:

    Want proof? Look at the length of the beauty shots of the Orville, Union headquarters or really any kind of CGI establishing or transition shot. They go on way longer than necessary for storytelling.

    The transition shot leading to the final meeting with the Kaylons at Union HQ was at least 12 seconds (probably longer). The shot would've served its purpose in half the time.

    As many times as they jerk themselves off like that, it's no wonder that the pacing of the stories feels so slow. :jayzus:
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    He's in his TMP era. :async:
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    I did laugh at how the tunnels leading to the big weapon on Kaylon 1 were an obvious redress/repaint of the tunnels leading to the place where Topa was being tortured in the previous episode. :lol:
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    :nono:

    Put another way, how many U.S. government buildings look the same because they basically just recycled the blueprints?
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    Hate is a strong word, but it comes down to a few things IMO:

    1. Charly sucks as a character, Anne Winters sucks as an actress, it sucks that Seth put her in such a prominent role for many episodes because it takes you out of the fictional world of the Orville and forces you to deal with the icky notion that he made her character so prominent because he's sleeping with her.

    2. Freed from the constraints of network TV, Seth made some episodes too long.

    3. Either as part of deal with Hulu to save the show or because Seth really wanted to do straight-up Star Trek but was denied,S3 had a lot less of the quirky, irreverent humor and the "Orville as underdog run-of-the-mill ship" vibe that it did in previous seasons and was effectively the flagship for the Planetary Union. As a result, the show felt more like warmed-over Trek than its own thing.

    4. Most of the stars and the writers don't have the wherewithal to carry off serious sci-fi, and when you judge it on a scale of serious sci-fi, the plot holes and characterization become more apparent.
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    Finished the season.

    If the rest of the episodes had been as good as the finale I wouldn't have many serious complaints. Overall, though, a big drop-off from the first two seasons. Big.


    All of ^that^. :yes:

    Without the great comedy from the first two seasons, it's just store-brand Star Trek.
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    Damn it... I read the first sentence, and forgot I was reading your post in the "The Orville" thread, and thought I was reading the "Better Call Saul" thread. Went to watch the finale, and couldn't play it. Then read the rest of the your post and realized I was in the "The Orville" thread.

    :brood::facepalm::waiting:
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    I binged eps 3-10 over the last couple of days, and overall loved this season.

    The longer episodes worked when there was plenty of story to tell, but there were a few episodes where it felt like shots were padded because they had a longer running length. Would have preferred that episodes just went between 45 and 90 minutes based on what was needed.