The Omnibus P01135809 Criminal Investigation Thread

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  1. Eightball

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    I came up with another informer theory. It was Ivana. Then they wacked her by pushing her down the stairs.
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    I actually laughed out loud. But, that may be because I’ve already taken my sleep medication. Uhmmm… I was talking about the new secret weapon.
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  4. Steal Your Face

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    That could be what those UAP videos are. The tic-tac craft.
  5. Eightball

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    If Ivana Trump turns out to be the informer thern a lot of things start making sense.
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    I’m not interested enough to do any real research. So, I’m damn sure not going to start down any conspiracy theory rabbit holes. That’s even more work than actual research.
  7. Steal Your Face

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    It’s not a conspiracy theory, they do exist. The NY Times reported on them. There’s been a lot of speculation as to what they are and where they came from, but there’s no question that they exist.
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    If the informer is not the secret service then we need to jail those fuckers along with the donald. If he was actually letting people into the rooms and scam a lago where he kept the top secret shit, then the secret service knew about it. This is not a quiet or smart man. If all of this is true we have secret service agents who watched him sell top secret information to foreign governments and said nothing while knowing what was going on.

    The secret service is not there to protect politicians while they harm america by selling top secret info to foreign enemies. As loyal authorities to the US government they should be law enforcement's ears in the fucking room. These are not your personal body guards who are loyal to the king.

    I think people are missing the point that of all people around donald trump the secret service should have had much more loyalty to the people and not the man. The fact they didn't is a huge problem.
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  9. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    1. Even if they were 100 percent transparent on everything that they are doing at this stage and even if in their transparency they revealed iron-clad proof that Trump was violating laws, their actions would be portrayed as political, a witch hunt, etc. in some quarters. There's no satisfying a sizeable group of Trump supporters on this score, so why attempt to?

    2. In some cases -- particularly ones involving ongoing investigations and/or confidential information/sources, it isn't smart to be transparent. Doing so may put people or the investigation at risk.

    ETA: 3. In this specific case, there is information that is not just confidential in the sense of "should remain private to protect the integrity of the investigation" but top secret. For reasons that should be obvious, there are limits to how much prosecutors should be forthcoming with information that might threaten national security.

    4. From what has been divulged already, it seems like Trump was given a large amount of latitude that the average person would not have gotten. If anyone else was suspected of taking boxloads of classified documents after leaving government service, they would not have had a subpoena sent and ignored for two months. And they would have been arrested contemporaneously with the discovery of actual classified materials that they had held onto.
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    I can't see how she'd be in a position to know. Did she spend any time at Mar-a-Lago in the past few years?
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    Never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory. :madcookie:
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    Speaking of UFOs, we're still waiting for you to return to the UFO thread. :)
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  16. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Someone on my Facebook refers to Trump/Trump supporters' positions on what he has done (he innocently took the documents, he accidentally took the documents, he declassified the documents so it's OK, everybody takes documents like this, the FBI planted the documents) as Schroedinger's Treason.
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  18. Steal Your Face

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    Right back at you, douche.
  19. Eightball

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    Ahem

    (1) From 2017: "First Ex" Ivana Trump - YouTube
  20. Steal Your Face

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    I love a good conspiracy theory, but I didn’t see anything in that indicates she would know anything about the documents.
  21. Eightball

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    Start watching at the 5 minute mark to the end.
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    WE HAVE A NEW ONE!

    1) Nothing was there, this is a political witch-hunt!
    2) They planted the documents.
    3) Obama did worse!
    4) I had an unwritten standing order to declassify any doc I took out of a secure location.
    6) Doesn’t matter if there is no proof of any such standing order. The fact I was once President means that magic will always reside within me.

    And now… *drum roll*

    Are you ready for it?

    Are you?

    7) The NARA were out to get me!

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  23. Steal Your Face

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    All she says is they still talk. Are you suggesting he told her about the documents?
  24. Nova

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    He literally tweeted "OMG Deep State took my passports!!"AFTER DoJ had told them the filter team had identified them and would be returning them.

    Ya know - because he wants to lower the temperature.
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  25. Nova

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    Vlad don't need no passports, these people don't follow rules.
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  27. Eightball

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    No she said he asks for advice on things. Now is it out of the realm of possibility that he asked for advice on this?
  28. Steal Your Face

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    Outside the realm of possibility? No, but you're going to need more than a Sunday Morning puff piece, this is a bit of a stretch.
  29. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Weisselberg, the Trump Org's CFO, has widely been reported as reaching a plea deal for 5 months (on a possible 15 years) but not cooperating with authorities.

    NY Daily News just came out with a report that he is cooperating against the Trump Org, just not specifically against Trump himself.

    If so that would still be significant, as the corporate death penalty for massive fraud and tax avoidance is one potential penalty and that could devastate Trump's finances. This could include having all his assets seized under this company, including Trump Tower, his other NY sky scraper, and all his golf courses.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...0220817-mpwvmurzpvccpiixf5sdo527yi-story.html
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  30. Ten Lubak

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    Well as long as this doesn't distract from his treason and espionage problems, I suppose this is ok
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