The Omnibus P01135809 Criminal Investigation Thread

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by We Are Borg, Feb 10, 2021.

  1. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    This is exactly what is meant by people putting more effort into trying to engage with you than you do into putting those talking points forward.

    You posted an opinion piece, so it's fair to assume you either endorsed its content or wanted to talk about it.

    So we all read it, tried to understand the authors arguments in order to discuss them, then you make it clear that you're only interested in repeating your own personal views.

    So what did posting this add to the discussion? Why did you waste our collective time with something you don't think is worth any of your own?
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  2. Steal Your Face

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    Plenty of people here post things without comment all of the time and I don't see you grilling them over it. Last response on this matter: The Judge is just stating facts, not giving and condemnation, nor endorsement, just stating facts. The fact is that Trump was a victim of the justice department when they used the Steele dossier to convince the Fisa courts to spy on his campaign. A dossier created by the Clinton campaign. That is not in dispute.
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  3. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    You have no dick.

    Just my opinion.
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  4. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You are a dick.

    Just my opinion.
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  5. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    I don't think you have any facts to back that up. :shrug:
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  6. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    And you have no facts to back up your claim either. I guess we're done here then. Maybe stick to the topic next time.
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  7. MikeH92467

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    Who needs facts when you have reflexive outrage? :clyde:
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  8. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Generally that's because if they post a piece like that without comment it seems to line up with their expressed views.

    If what he wrote are all facts then they are different to what you express as facts.

    Clinton wasn't mentioned once in the article you posted, and indeed the only mention of anything other than the current legal mess is the concluding paragraph:

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  9. Bickendan

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    "Former President Donald Trump will soon be indicted by a federal grand jury."
    Assumes facts not yet in evidence; however likely it may be.
    "He is the victim
    Opinion
    of a federal government that knows no bounds
    Opinion
    and has assumed powers nowhere granted in the Constitution
    by the sheer force of its own will.
    Hyperbole
    It has created a security state,
    Opinion
    replete with three lettered acronymic-named agencies — FBI, CIA, DEA, NSA, DIA
    Fearmongering
    that are nowhere recognized in the Constitution,
    Irrelevant [to the topic at hand]
    regularly break the written and moral laws, and are themselves far more dangerous to human freedom than the folks they pursue."
    Hyperbole

    This is either a persuasive or an opinion essay; by definition, the judge is not just stating facts. I suspect you think he's strictly just stating facts because you agree with him.
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  10. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    @Bailey @Bickendan The time for debate has obviously passed. Why are y’all still beating on this drum?
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  12. Steal Your Face

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    Let's say you're a huge hater of Star Trek: Discovery and your audience are too. Let's also say your audience are huge fans of past Star Trek series', but you want to persuade your audience that the other new Trek shows are worth watching, but you're audience is highly skeptical. Your next goal would be to explain to them that you understand their skepticism and you'd probably try and appeal to their biases. Now you may not be able to convince all of them to watch the other new shows, but you might be able to convince some of them. You would point out the flaws of Star Trek: Discovery and point out what you don't like about the show while simultaneously saying what you think the new shows are doing right.

    This is the point of this piece, to say, "hey guys, you know me, I'm no fan of the FBI and here's why, but here's where they are correct. I've defended Trump in the past. I was friends with some of his allies such as Rudy Juliani, but you need to understand what the FBI did is following a lawful procedure. What Trump has done is against the law and here are the reasons. You may not agree with the law or the tactics that the FBI used, but he did in fact break the law and is in a lot of hot water over it."

    In case you missed it, I posted a video of the Judge pretty much saying this. He's been getting a lot of questions from his audience, he's trying to explain to them these things so they understand precisely what's going on. If you don't want to watch the whole thing then start at the 3:52 mark. He's clearly not excusing Trump's behavior. What he does say is that someone misled the DOJ. It could very well be Trump's lawyers and not Trump himself.
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    Well, I'm trying to think of something I hate as much as Discovery haters hate Discovery.
    Can't do it. Discovery haters think Discovery killed their dad.
    I don't think any shows killed my dad.
    Not even Fox & Friends.
    :shrug:
  14. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Because I believe that FF actually does think he is being treated unfairly, and doesn't understand that there isn't actually a conspiracy out to get him. Keep on hoping that we'll catch him at a sober moment. :clyde:
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  15. Ten Lubak

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    So you want to hitch your wagon to someone with an abysmally bad opinion that is completely wrong in every possible way and has no place in the reality that we live in. Ok

    I mean go ahead, knock yourself out kid but don’t expect us to sit by, pat you on the head and say good job :shrug:
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    Bless your heart. :)
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  17. Steal Your Face

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    Have you paid attention to anything I've posted since this whole thing began? It's pretty clear that most people haven't. And by the way, I am completely sober. Fuck off.
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    Sober like a drunk
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  19. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Why are you trying to derail yet another thread?
  20. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    This thread shows we pay more attention to what you post than you do. :lol:
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  21. Steal Your Face

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    No you fucking haven't because if you had you wouldn't have said what you said. I just posted links to almost all of my replies in the past few days and not one of them says that I think Trump is being treated unfairly.
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  23. Steal Your Face

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    But hey let’s continue to make this thread about me.
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  24. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Cool, except we're talking about the opinion piece you posted. It's quite possible for you to think one thing and have posted a piece which says something entirely differently, which is precisely why people noted it.
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  25. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Can you point to where I said Trump is being treated unfairly?
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  26. Bickendan

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    You might not have, but the Judge certainly thought so in the first paragraph following his thesis.
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  27. Steal Your Face

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    That's what I thought.
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  28. Order2Chaos

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    It’s very clear the opinion piece you posted says it, and nowhere do you say you disagree with that take.
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  29. 14thDoctor

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    Show me where I said you're a stupid piece of shit. :bailey:
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  30. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So what? I also haven't a lot of things that I don't disagree with. I don't have to share every opinion I have here and just because I din't say I disagree, does not automatically mean that I do agree.
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