Cancel Culture Doesn't Exist

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  1. 14thDoctor

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    They're both useful idiots for the worst kind of fascists. The sort of propaganda and bad faith talking points they've fallen for might sound different, but it's all coming from the same sources. :clyde:
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  2. 14thDoctor

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    @Amaris apparently still believes that not letting unaccompanied minors cross the border freely only to wind up in the hands of literally anyone is an unacceptable human rights violation. :jayzus:

    Normally FF would be crying "groomer" after seeing a transgender person objecting to a government agency taking basic precautions to keep vulnerable children out of the hands of potential predators and abusers, but since Amaris is also saying something bad about lefties, he's letting it pass. :async:
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  3. Amaris

    Amaris Witch of Winter

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    Hey, I'm not the one defending kids in cages as some kind of altruistic action, or pretending it's not even happening at all. You do you, though, boo. How's Canada doing with its mass murder of indigenous tribal children in corrective schools? Still working that out?

    Just remember, at the end of the day, you're closer to fascism than I'll ever be, you're just too ignorant to realize it, and you'll march your happy ass right into it thinking you're on the right side of history the entire time, because you don't think, you swallow.
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  4. Amaris

    Amaris Witch of Winter

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    Hon, you back Nazis. I don't give a single fuck what you have to say.

    Oh, and if any of you ever wondered just how Hitler took power and so many people went along with him, look to the US. Look here to the US, because we're doing it right now.
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  5. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    No, hon, the Nazis didn't enforce their borders, the Nazis invaded other nations and set up death camps to exterminate people like you. Not a single country on Earth has open borders. If that makes a country Nazi, they all are. Ridiculous.

    The Dems are pro-Trans rights. They are also far more humane to migrants. They don't demonize them. It's not MSNBC running daily stories on the horrible convoys heading to the US border. It isn't Biden or Harris or Pelosi or Schumer saying how awful it is we have an open border (we don't) or trafficking legitimate refugees under false pretenses to score points with their racist base.

    There are Nazis here, but your ridiculously stupid ass helps them. Because you can't differentiate those that oppose the Nazis with the Nazis.
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  6. Amaris

    Amaris Witch of Winter

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    Kamala "Don't Come" Harris?

    Keep making your excuses. Can't wait to see the Democrats rehabilitate Trump next, and you end up defending him. They did it for GW Bush, they can do it for anybody. So many of you have short memories, and are far too willing to let things go to "get back to normal," and it shows. So many of you don't even care to know, forget actually knowing what's going on, you don't care to know, because it's too much. Knowing what is actually happening around you would put you in a crisis mode, and so you follow the narrative you're given, just like any Republican FOX viewer. MSNBC has its own code it uses, just as FOX has its own code it uses for its viewers, and somehow you think they're totally different media arms.

    I'm one person, I can't pull you out of that, and that's assuming you would want to be pulled out of it, but pigs love the mud, they find it cool and comfortable, and I believe that you're no different.
    You will make excuses for why kids sit in cages, and why this time it's different, because to do otherwise would be to face the reality of what you implicitly endorse. Just like the Germans of the 30s and early 40s, you will carry that narrative as long as it protects you, no matter who it harms, and you'll even speak up against the people trying to show you the emperor has no clothes. Goddamn, what a nice suit Biden wears, amiright?

    I don't think you'll ever learn. Change has to come from within, and you like where you are. So many of you do, you like where you are, it's comfortable.
  7. 14thDoctor

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    Yup.

    Stephen Miller, architect of the worst abuses of migrants during the Trump years, is currently working his ass off to convince gullible folks like Amaris that Biden's treatment of migrants is exactly as bad as Trumps. Why? So when another Republican wins the presidency and Miller gets a chance to push for even more inhumane policies, he can claim "this isn't any different from what previous administrations did" and some percentage of the public will believe him.


    And Amaris will be right there, saying "this is nothing new, Biden threw immigrants into ovens too." :jayzus:
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  8. Amaris

    Amaris Witch of Winter

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    Joe Biden chose several people for his cabinet who worked under Trump.
    He's also advancing Trump's border wall.
    Thousands of Haitians have been sent back to Haiti despite the massive unrest taking place there.
    The US is literally funding Nazis, and at one time this was an accepted fact until we decided to back Ukraine.

    You're a fool, a moral coward, and you gloat in your ability to be one because it requires nothing from you except quiet compliance.

    You get upset because deep down you know this, and you don't like it when people bring it up.
    @Demiurge is just a fucking idiot, though. Will go along with anything he's told because it requires no mental energy on his part.

    You help Nazis, and so you have to push it onto others, like @Demiurge but he's completely oblivious. You're not. You know better, or maybe my opinion of you is too high, and you're fine with what they're doing.
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    Darling, you support facilitating the abuse and trafficking of minors. I give several fucks about what you have to say, and so do the FBI and NAMBLA. :bergman:
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  10. Amaris

    Amaris Witch of Winter

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    Call them, bitch.

    Come on, pull an Enterpriser and try to dig into people's real lives because of an internet argument. Be that moral coward I know you are deep down, and strike back hard because it has enraged you. You know the truth, you know it, and you don't like that I'm here to remind you of it.

    People like @Demiurge are useful tools, he will never question what he's told. You, though, you know, because you don't live in the US, your education was probably a little better, and you know the atrocities committed by the US continue to this day, every day, unless of course you agree with them and need a reason to ignore them.

    So go on, while you're at it, talk to the agencies I work with to protect children, because if you're going to engage in libel, might as well get the whole story, you petty little shit.
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  11. Uncle Albert

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    "We shouldn't put kids in cages! :whaa: "

    Well, what alternative do yo suggest?

    "I don't know, like, not do that, or whataverrrr. :blink: "
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  12. Amaris

    Amaris Witch of Winter

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    Come on, @Diacanu, now's the time to remind @Demiurge and @14thDoctor what happens when someone like UA or FF agree with them. ;)
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    Don't pretend you weren't waiting on the edge of your high chair for that, Comrade Spookypants.
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  14. Amaris

    Amaris Witch of Winter

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    For what? For you to say something stupid? Why would I wait in anticipation for something that's as regular as the train schedule?
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    :lol:
    Look out. Spooky is on another tear.
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  16. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Post 794 applies across the board, and shouldn't need to be restated. :shrug:
  17. Amaris

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    NAHTMMM Perpetually sondering

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    Would you be happy with the process if they were held in something more humane than cages?
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    Still waiting on that well-reasoned, thoroughly-considered alternative.

    Also, do we have a witch smiley? Can't find it .
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    Bouncy castles for everyone!
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  21. Spaceturkey

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    Beau of the Fifth made an observation a while back that the neo fasc in Ukraine, much like American "militias", have two roles in the invasion of their country.

    They were the first line of raw defensive action, and they'll serve as sacrificial goats at the war crime trials afterwards. Either way, they're a disposable element.

    Also seems kinda out there to call out the supposed wealth of Zelensky when even Elon and Jeff realize Putin controls way more wealth than they do.

    I think it may be wrong to consider Ukraine as Germany anyways. This entire thing seems more like the Winter War invasions of Finland that went just about as well for the Red Army.
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  22. Amaris

    Amaris Witch of Winter

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    You mean like given rooms with heating, cooling, running water, etc? As a way to protect them and provide them with what they need? That would be good, but it wouldn't be enough, because they're still going to be sent back to either their home country or some random country, which the US has done repeatedly. It would, however, be a good start to protecting them, their rights, and seeing them as human beings rather than as "illegals" or "immigrants," which is just way too easy to marginalize them and shuffle them aside.
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  23. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    That tracks. She retweeted Christoper Rufo, a far right Nazi propagandist without checking anything about what he said, who he was, or what the implications were. Because she states that Beto O'Rourke is evil. In the meanwhile he's leading the resistance to Greg Abbot, who is actively attacking Trans families with the most brutal policies in the United States.

    The best thing you can say is her biases mean she has a profound lack of critical thinking.

    I think it's more malicious than that though, as I see this as a repeated pattern on the far left. They attack Democrats as BoTh SiDEz because they have no chance of any political power as long as a center left coalition holds. They need to defeat and replace the Dems. No different than the Tea Party, and likely with the same extremist result.

    Again, not a single country on Earth has an open border policy. Not one.

    But the fact that the US does and Biden is enforcing it means that the US are NAZIS!

    The PRC and China though. You can trust those guys.
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  24. Amaris

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    There's still the issue of so many Nazi elements in Ukraine's culture. Again, Zelenskyy openly approves of Stepan Bandera day, he has taken pictures with the Azov battalion, smiling, and so I think he knows where his bread is being buttered and as long as he plays ball, he has nothing to worry about. He even suspended the left wing parties in Ukraine, claiming they were "pro-Russia" when what they were was anti-war and anti-fascist. The right wing parties are still there, though.

    The reason I point out Zelenskyy's wealth is because he's got this image of a scrappy young fighter working to protect his country, when in reality he's a multi-millioniare (something to the tune of at least $20 million) who has time to be everywhere, make appearances in various popular magazines, interviews, and still have time for those inspiring "front line" battle planning images. It's all a quick lesson in propaganda, and how the US will make anyone look good as long as that party is advancing our interests.

    The US helped Ukraine's right wing take over its elected government in 2014, and since then we've seen an explosion of Nazism in Ukraine. It has existed for generations, but now the US is openly supporting them and claiming they're not, and people believe it because they still think the US would never support Nazis, despite our long history of doing exactly that when it suited us.
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  25. Jenee

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    I definitely would. Hell, juvenile detention centers have dorms. and supposedly, they're criminals. Why can't we do the same for these kids?
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    The Democrats want to demonize rich people and take away everything they have, but did you know Nancy Pelosi is worth over a million dollars herself?!? :overreaction:
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    Doesn't matter what the political party. Most Congresscritters take money from the 1%. trump even said it out loud on stage in 2015 during the republican primaries. No one was arrested. No one was charged with giving or taking a bribe. No one cares.
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  28. Amaris

    Amaris Witch of Winter

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    Nancy has $140 million, and she's openly stated she's a capitalist. The Democrats don't demonize the rich, they play off the rich as being job creators and necessary for the good of the nation. They'll vary their language a little to be more critical, but even Joe Biden said that he doesn't think rich people are evil, and that they're just as patriotic as poor people.

    Now, when the opposition has a lot of money and power, then it's a problem, but when it's a rich democrat, they came by it honestly.
    Switch those out for the Republicans and how they see rich Democrats like George Soros and the like. They'll hate him and laud Trump for his business acumen.

    It's a game of partisanship, that's all it is. Like I said, when it was Obama, few people even knew, myself included, that kids were being put in cages, that the US was bombing the shit out of the middle east to the point where we almost ran out of bombs, 26,000 in a single year were dropped on Syria, Afghanistan, and others. When Trump took over, the media noticed, and AOC even went to the border to cry in front of the fence surrounding one of the concentration camps. Biden was elected, and almost everyone went silent. The name of the camps were changed, and people just accepted it as normal and went about their business, except the Republicans, who now had a reason to be angry with Joe Biden. When a Republican takes office, the Democrats will boldly call out inhumane treatment at the camps, and we haven't *yet* stopped the bombs over the middle east.

    It's all a game. It's just a game for these people.
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    pretty decent start, given the last one was shut down 25 years ago.

    now it's about uncovering the evidence of abuse that no one who matters is disputing.

    It's quite possibly the biggest social issue in the country today and will influence the outcome of the next election
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    He insists you're lying in saying there have been only cosmetic changes. Which, you are. So no, he's right.
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