Trumpite Americans, when will you finally acknowledge that you’re traitorous assholes?

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    For the other slow among us: I have a friend who’s only a couple of years younger than me, his grandfather was German. He was drafted into the German military during WW2. Technically he was a Nazi. Does that mean that my friend’s grandfather actually believed in Nazi ideology? Same with my great, great grandfather. He was drafted into the confederacy, technically he was a confederate. Does that mean he believed in confederate ideology?
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    Furthermore; when my grandfather died, he had some relics from the civil war like belt buckles, spurs and the like. I’ve wanted to get my hands on that belt buckle because it said CSA on it, not because I thought the south would rise again, but because, as Indy would say, “it belongs in a museum.” It’s a piece of history that nobody can take away from my family. Now I’ve done extensive research on my family and as far as I can tell, we owned a decent plot of land in Ireland, but never owned slaves.
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    hmm... they were Irish land holders or owners before 1850? 19thC tenant farming there had some interesting dynamics as far as stakeholder rights went.

    that's an interesting piece of Irish history you may want to dive into to get a better idea of their lives (presuming they came over in the decade before the CW?).
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    "Probably" to both, based on the public sentiments of the times.
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    Ooooh, don't forget the deliberate starvation the Brits did of the Irish. Part one. Part two. Part three.

    Fun fact: On one side of my family we can trace our roots to both sides of the shit that happened in Ireland. Another fun fact: Even the British side of the family was appalled by what was happening in Ireland and bailed on being involved rather than participating in genocide. Another fun fact: Lore has it that the same side rose from the grave during the Battle of Britain (during WWII, so several hundred years late) to warn the populace of German bombing raids.
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    Depends, you still calling basically anything you don't like communism?
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    seems there's a likely chance that FF's ancestors were ardent supporters of the secessionists.

    In 1820 Irish-born John England became the first Catholic bishop in the mainly Protestant city of Charleston, South Carolina. During the 1820s and 1830s, Bishop England defended the Catholic minority against Protestant prejudices. In 1831 and 1835, he established free schools for free African American children. Inflamed by the propaganda of the American Anti-Slavery Society, a mob raided the Charleston post office in 1835 and the next day turned its attention to England's school. England led Charleston's "Irish Volunteers" to defend the school. Soon after this, however, all schools for "free blacks" were closed in Charleston, and England acquiesced.[119]

    Two pairs of Irish empresarios founded colonies in coastal Texas in 1828. John McMullen and James McGloin honored the Irish saint when they established the San Patricio Colony south of San Antonio; James Power and James Hewetson contracted to create the Refugio Colony on the Gulf Coast. The two colonies were settled mainly by Irish, but also by Mexicans and other nationalities. At least 87 Irish-surnamed individuals settled in the Peters Colony, which included much of present-day north-central Texas, in the 1840s. The Irish participated in all phases of Texas' war of independence against Mexico. Among those who died defending the Alamo in March 1836 were 12 who were Irish-born, while an additional 14 bore Irish surnames. About 100 Irish-born soldiers participated in the Battle of San Jacinto – about one-seventh of the total force of Texians in that conflict.[120]

    The Irish Catholics concentrated in a few medium-sized cities, where they were highly visible, especially in Charleston, Savannah and New Orleans.[121][122] They often became precinct leaders in the Democratic Party Organizations, opposed abolition of slavery, and generally favored preserving the Union in 1860, when they voted for Stephen Douglas.[123]

    After secession in 1861, the Irish Catholic community supported the Confederate States of America and 20,000 Irish Catholics served in the Confederate States Army. Gleason says:

    Support for Irish Confederate soldiers from home was vital both for encouraging them to stay in the army and to highlight to native white southerners that the entire Irish community was behind the Confederacy. Civilian leaders of the Irish and the South did embrace the Confederate national project and most became advocates of a 'hard-war' policy.[124][125]

    Irish nationalist John Mitchel lived in Tennessee and Virginia during his exile from Ireland and was one of the Southern United States' most outspoken supporters during the American Civil War through his newspapers the Southern Citizen and the Richmond Enquirer.[126]

    Although most began as unskilled laborers, Irish Catholics in the South achieved average or above average economic status by 1900. David T. Gleeson emphasizes how well they were accepted by society:

    Native tolerance, however, was also a very important factor in Irish integration [into Southern society].... Upper-class southerners, therefore, did not object to the Irish, because Irish immigration never threatened to overwhelm their cities or states.... The Irish were willing to take on potentially high-mortality occupations, thereby sparing valuable slave property. Some employers objected not only to the cost of Irish labor but also to the rowdiness of their foreign-born employees. Nevertheless, they recognized the importance of the Irish worker to the protection of slavery.... The Catholicism practiced by Irish immigrants was of little concern to Southern natives.[127]
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    Earliest known records place them here in 1775. They were likely small land owners.
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    And THERE it is. The Great American defender of the constitution.
    Or, ya know, not.

    Dude is basically just demanding to be installed as a dictator at this point.

    His contempt for our entire legal/governmental system is right out there in the open and any pol in his party who doesn't publicly recoil in horror from this is unworthy of any office.

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    "Trump 2024: Terminate the Constitution" Big oathbreaker energy there.
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    Everyone who would vote for him seem to be the very definition of traitors at this point.
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    Not the first time that he's posted something like this, either.

    Paladin, I'm sure, is overjoyed. Pity we don't still have folks willing to admit that they like Trump posting here. It'd be interesting to see their rationalizations for still supporting him.
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    Well, Ramen gave us a pretty big clue with his lynching shit.
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    I left a couple of jobs by mutual agreement. They told me to leave and I agreed to leave. :ramen:
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    I'm sure Federal Fuckwit still thinks he's better than Hillary. :chris:
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    This could be fun.
    More at the link.
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