Incel argument tangent from MTL massacre thread

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  1. Uncle Albert

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    There's that mindless catch-all term again. Need to denigrate a bad man AND tacitly associate him with a general category for collective guilt? Incel! :dayton:


    "YOU are teh mindless! :hurr: "
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  2. Fisherman's Worf

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    Thanks for the insight, Uncle Incel.
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    Can tyhe mods please change UA's user name to the much more fitting Uncle incel. I would consider actually leaving if you did that.
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    I take it you're done with your pink hair descriptors and other such things then?
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    Who’s the hockey player that’s gotten in trouble for supporting the gun organization that used “Poly” as a discount code in reference to this (as in they were fans of the shooter)?
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    Carey Price. Seems like a silly mistake on his part
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  7. Ten Lubak

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    Incels should feel guilty and be associated with crazy losers like the shooter. Because they're terrible people and there are plenty of more examples of incel murderers

    Pretty simple bud
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  8. Spaceturkey

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    dude, he literally screamed "I hate feminists" while he was gunning them down.

    his motive was that he didn't make the cut for the engineering program because women did.

    pretty sure that qualifies.

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    Lépine had long complained about women working in "non-traditional" jobs. After several months of planning, including the purchase of a semi-automatic rifle, he entered the École Polytechnique on the afternoon of December 6, 1989, separated the men from the women in a classroom, and shot the women, while yelling, "I hate feminists", claiming that he was "fighting feminism". He then moved into other parts of the building, targeting only the women, before killing himself. His suicide note blamed feminists for ruining his life.
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    You need to stop with these words having meanings because that is totally unfair to @Uncle Albert . If you keep a standard definition for word's meaning then albert will never be able to make a point by changing the entire definition of words to be random shit when you nail him down. It is republican argument tactic 1, and without that republicans like albert just can't win.
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  10. Diacanu

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    Yeah, but a "funny" Youtuber told UA that incels aren't so bad, and theatrics out of "Idiocracy" are the standard of truth now.
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  11. Uncle Albert

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    Nobody should be subject to guilt or liability for deeds they didn't personally commit.
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  12. Uncle Albert

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    Did he say he was an "incel" or couldn't get laid? Can he not just be an individual murderer who hates women, feminism and quotas? If you actually care to address behaviors like this, you need to engage with the individual nuance of the situation. Generalizing about "incels" just signals your sole interest is snide, vacuous mockery of entire groups. Which, if that's your goal, great. Whatever floats your boat.
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  13. Spaceturkey

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    "blatantly regressive misogynists" would've just cast a wider net /shrug

    It is interesting that you're so triggered over what a guy who killed 14 women gets called. especially when the offending word is rarely more applicable.

    I'm pretty sure I recall you telling me in the past that nuance is bullshit...
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    So if a nazi calls himself a nazi we shouldn’t make him feel bad just because he hasn’t gassed some Jews?

    Lol fuck that
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    To be unnecessarily pedantic, incel is a newish term, and one which is problematic primarily because of how people self label themselves as it. Given the time period this guy commited his crimes he couldn't have described himself as one, even if he meets many of the criteria for modern ones, and probably would in the present day.

    As mentioned though, all of that is unnecessarily pedantic, because in this story of a man who killed a bunch of women for daring to have rights, who could be enough of a stubborn tine-deaf fuckwit to possibly choose to focus on that labelling of him as outrageously unfair?
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    Who indeed? :chris:
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    Are you contending that the incel who killed these women didn't actually kill them? What?
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  18. Diacanu

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    Fun fact: A not-insignificant percentage of incels hold Elliot Rodger up as a hero.

    So, if UA is terrified that they'll be tarred with a broad brush by being linked to this asshole, too late, they've smeared the vicarious blood on themselves already.
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  19. Spaceturkey

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    still trying to unpack wtf he's talking about here, too.

    I mean, it's pretty clear what defines an incel.

    Not so much when it comes to signs of a call for collective guilt though.
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  20. Uncle Albert

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    Once again, what has this guy called himself?
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  21. Uncle Albert

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    No, you drooling mongoloid. I'm saying nobody else should be associated with him to share any particular connotation or guilt.
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  22. Uncle Albert

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    And nothing about this story is a straight line to it.
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    An anti feminist. In his suicide note he literally blamed feminists for ruining his life. In todays parlance we call that an incel

    It’s pretty strange that you’re so hung up on this irrelevant “issue” and not the things you probably should be hung up on that relate to this matter
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  24. Diacanu

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    If incels claim Elliot Rodger, they'll claim this guy.
    I'm sure UA will be in their forums going "No!! Stop it! He's not an incel!! :weep:".
    Y'know, if he cares so fucking much.
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    so hang on... the identity people claim for themselves suddenly is the way we're obligated (and limited) to perceiving them by?

    anyways... kudos for derailing a thread in the very first response just to reaffirm you're a piece of shit.
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  26. Diacanu

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    :Oooo:
  27. Uncle Albert

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    I'm "hung up" on this guilt by association horse hockey. It being an ASSUMED association only adds to the horse apple pile.
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  28. Uncle Albert

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    It was never going anywhere but "men bad" and "guns bad," so let's not pretend I'm obstructing your blazing of new trails.

    :dayton:
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  29. Diacanu

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    Again, you're defending a community that LIKES vicariously dipping their hands in murder blood.
    Pick better clients for your game of Fantasy Perry Mason.
  30. Uncle Albert

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    I'm not defending anyone, let alone mass muderers.