Star Trek: Strange New Worlds [SPOILERS]

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  1. Diacanu

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    Looks like they updated the uniforms slightly. It also looks like they updated the consoles to fit TOS.
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    Youtube version for people who hate Twitter. :)

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    Kirk! Movie/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT Klingons!! Carol Kane!!
    No Mariner & Boimler though. :sigh:
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    Well now!
    Would you look at that nice normal Klingon?



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    What's "normal"? :diacanu:
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    Also, I love this Trek series. What a great trailer.

    "I would like the ship to go. Now!" :rotfl:

    EDIT: And the revolving door that Kirk is stuck in is from the Canadian clothing retailer chain Roots. From the blurry background, it looks like it was filmed at the Eaton Centre store in downtown Toronto. There's also someone wearing a Toronto Maple Leafs jersey.
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    I hope it goes down like...

    Pike- Hey, what was the deal with those other weird looking Klingons?

    Klingon- We don't discuss it with outsiders. :calli:
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    The more I think about this, the more I realize that @Nova is a TREK.

    (Trekkie Radical Exclusionary Klingon)
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    I think these Klingons are going through a phase. They don’t have ridges on their noses so either the augmented faction is starting to take over or they are the in between phase from human looking to the TNG era Klingons. Notice they have the TOS color scheme uniforms ie. gold armor with black undershirt and gold band.
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    Looks pretty.

    Dialogue still sounds icky.

    So fucking quippy.

    And Paul Wesley. Stinky.
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    They really need to retcon it so that the Klingon's in Discovery were a subspecies of Klingon that had taken power. Hence the different appearance, ship design, and even significantly different culture. The failure in the war against the Federation caused them to fall. Then bring them back in a later series as a faction that resents the peace with the Federation. Easy peasy, everything works again.
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    oh, I have an entire elaborate head-canon accounting for why there's seems to be different sorts. I don't take such a negative view of Disco Klingons simply because they are different, but about HOW they are different. They tried WAY too hard on them when they already had a perfectly good base.
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    Okay, again, here's how I make it work

    Worf-style Klingons are the default nature-made model (see Worf's "ancestor" in Enterprise and Klang and so forth.

    The "Augments" events in Enterprise S4 is actually a brilliant bit of writing. Not just for the "origin of the smoothies" story they told but what that implies - that Klingons are not built to just give up when they smell a potential advantage. So various factions (states? Whatever) among them continue to try and replicate the Khan augments with varying degrees of success. By happenstance, in the 2250's, (maybe something having to do directly with finding that ship) the Disco variants had a brief run at the top of the pecking order, but the Smoothie faction overthrew them and had a run of around 20 years ascendency before the OG Klingons overthrew THEM around 2280 this was made possible partly because they came up with a cure for the smoothies that would restore them to OG gloriousness, and most of them took it. The Disco Klingons eventually became outcasts and mostly dies off after Praxis exploded.

    All the tinkering DID improve some things, particularly lifespans which is why you see TOS Klingons on DS9
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    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Pretty much the same as my head cannon, but that's just it - it's head cannon. Very few of that is directly illustrated.

    And that was the problem with the Disco Klingons - they clearly showed that ALL the Houses of the Empire were made of this subspecies. They intended to replace Klingons to be like this going forward, totally ignoring 5 decades of stories prior, which already were convoluted because of the 'human' Klingon and 'Imperial' Klingon. Which they didn't clean up either for 20 years on DS9. So why make the same mistake again?

    It works brilliantly as we've both suggested - so spend thirty seconds to address it and move on and you make the fans happy for no effort.

    That's what Picard Season 3 is getting absolutely right (I'm only halfway, so bare with me). Disco often didn't care about what it's base wanted. It's the worst rated Trek of all time. Some of that is due to the culture wars, but clearly not all of it is.

    Picard had two seasons of that had some good ideas, some bad, but season 3 they are giving the fans exactly what they want, and proving that you can do so and still do it with great writing, and it's fucking brilliant.
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    The Klingon shit is unfixable and I don't want to hear any more convoluted explanations. Just get on with it.
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    You are. :bailey:
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    No, the 60th anniversary is coming up. We need to see Worf once again at K7 while Miles and Julian visit Pike’s Enterprise.
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    Same.

    DS9's explaintion was cheeky and to the point for what was always intended to be a comedic line in a comedic episode. We all know they just didn't have the makeup technology in 1966 to do what Roddenberry envisioned with them. We definitely did not need ENT wasting two (or three? whatever, I hated the arc anyway) episodes with that convoluted nonsense, and we needed that complete redesign in DSC even less.
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    I get a kick out of the retcon of it though.
    Phlox is responsible for saving the smoothies, but he gets no credit in TOS, cuz the Klingons covered that shit up.
    Just like Mirror-Phlox invented the agony booth, but he gets no credit because the Terran Empire are racists.
    The ENT crew Forrest Gump their way through history.
    :lol:
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    Mirror Reed and Phlox.
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    Thought upon re-watching the trailer-

    I missed it the first time but there's a blink-fast scene of a D-7 (one assumes) dropping out of warp and ... it's gorgeous.
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    On a related note, I love how Strange New Worlds, Picard, and the later seasons of Discovery are all shot in 2.39:1 instead of 16:9.
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    Theory time.
    Given Lower Decks Easter egg sense of humor, here's how I think they'll do the SNW crossover.
    Rather than the whole ships coming through, it'll be a "Mirror Mirror" style transporter flub.
    Cerritos and Enterprise will beam through a quantum-wonky part of space at the same "time".
    Complete with rapid fire film flicker cut.
    Pike and Una will go to Cerritos as cartoons, Mariner and Boimler go to Enterprise live-action.
    Why do I think Una will be part of the swap?
    Spouse meetup with Jerry O'Connell as Ransom.
    Which, really, instigated the whole thing.
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